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gregzz4 04-13-2015 03:53 AM

As far as the Concept tank journal goes, just link your build thread in their's. And maybe send Dave a note about it in case you do it wrong or such.

I don't want to rain on your build parade, but seeing you siliconing the brick stuff to acrylic brings up an issue;
Silicone and acrylic don't stay bonded for very long, especially if there is any stress/weight involved.

Maybe you could come up with a better way to bond them together, or use glass instead.

reefwithareefer 04-13-2015 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregzz4 (Post 945347)
As far as the Concept tank journal goes, just link your build thread in their's. And maybe send Dave a note about it in case you do it wrong or such.

I don't want to rain on your build parade, but seeing you siliconing the brick stuff to acrylic brings up an issue;
Silicone and acrylic don't stay bonded for very long, especially if there is any stress/weight involved.

Maybe you could come up with a better way to bond them together, or use glass instead.


I did link it before, but the instructions were confusing to me. Dave actually started mine in his thread, for me..lol.

Lol, I am terrible at putting stuff together properly in my journal. I actually sanded and scored the acrylic really deep and then drilled thru the acrylic so that the silicone would go into the holes and onto the back side, giving it something to bond to. I am hoping that will do the trick.
Thank for pointing it out though, if you had not said something, someone might have tried this and did not know to drill or score the acrylic and then a disaster could have happened...

reefwithareefer 04-22-2015 06:28 PM

Not sure if Ozone is the cause or not. Sea Apple appeared healthy in color and size then 2 days ago it shriveled up and was gone within 36 hours. Nothing in the tank appears to be harmed by any of the so called "toxins" from the dead sea apple.

The Guy 06-26-2015 04:04 PM

Wow what a great setup, I'd love to come over and see one day, you did a super job. :first:

reefwithareefer 06-26-2015 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 955746)
Wow what a great setup, I'd love to come over and see one day, you did a super job. :first:


Thanks for the kind words and you are always welcome to come by and say Hi.

reefwithareefer 06-30-2015 03:14 AM

Time for an update..
Once again I am doing everything out of order, but that is ok. My thread, my rules. :)

I had time to set up my lights and build a new canopy. I took some pics and put them in a folder and that is when I found the pics that show the wall being ripped out and being rebuilt so the GF could have a saltwater tank again.


I started this on a friday night and had it mudded and taped by Sunday





This wall divided the front entrance and living room. Pic shows the drywall removed

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psidoogebo.png




Looking at the front entrance, from the living room.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ps0atghbnm.png

and looking from the kitchen.....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...pslzufv8dc.png

Cut down the bearing wall studs....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ps2tdfwdzj.png

Added a 3 1/2" x 9 1/2" x 14' Microlam to carry the load

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...pslpqlgdu6.jpg

Then I ripped out the old tiles and flooring, cut down the studs to proper elevation and then put the top plate on....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psamx7l4ao.jpg


I can not find the the other pics showing the framing out of another wall to make the top 28" wide, but this gives the idea....

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psycfnsd4g.png


Another view...This one showing the laminate flooring installed as well. I used 6x6 for the posts and header, then sheathed with 1" plywood.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...pswluddbca.png


I do not have pictures, but I tiled the entire top as well.

reefwithareefer 06-30-2015 03:32 AM

This was the first tank, An oceanic 180 Bowfront. It looked good, but never really filled out the space I had built, so I wanted to "upgrade" right away.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ps2gp3rpmj.jpg


I did not need a center post with the 180..
When I got the 290 gal, I added a 4x4 post in the center for better support.


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psn7vo5svt.jpg


After a month or so, I checked the header and it had not deflected at all, so I took it out and started the closet doors and shelves.



I started this 2 weekends ago. It took a day to complete.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psr5qg9hk1.jpg

I salvaged some solid wood doors from a job I was on and made them into shelves. The closet doors we cut down to fit the opening, then I trimmed it all out.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psfmbasjui.jpg

I finished all the electrical wiring and and plumbing etc for the tank and closet, so the canopy and lights were the next to attack...

reefwithareefer 06-30-2015 04:22 AM

I have been all over the place with how I was going to do the canopy and lights. Each one affected how to do the other.

I had a 6 ft fixture with 3- 250w halides, 4 80w T5s and some moonlights. It never worked right with my 8' long "CONCEPT" (hint hint) built tank. Trying to find an 8ft fixture was futile and 2 4' just did not work for me

Ever since seeing Slyguys tank and how the corals popped, I have tried to get the same effect. I have changed bulbs, type of lights, height from top of tank, added led, took away led, added lots of T5s then took some away etc etc.

The final decision came a few weeks ago after the GF hinted about finishing the canopy etc for the one millionth time...

Metal halide pendants were the choice as was the decision to rip apart my existing fixture for the 4 80w T5 setup.
After pricing everything out, it was cheaper to just rip apart the 5 month old fixture, rather than buy everything new. Add it the fact of having three extra HQI ballasts and all was good.

Gutted..

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psm2vknbfs.jpg

I found 4 pendants on canreef and scooped them all for 200.00. Cleaned them up and swapped bulbs. Ready to put above the tank.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psj6lw75it.jpg

Of course nothing is that easy around here. After measuring the height of the pendant lights, I was not happy with how close they would be to the top of the tank....So....


Only one solution...Cut the drywall ceiling out and install them between the floor joists of the floor above the tank..Oh the GF is not impressed now...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psgbciat8v.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ps5t8ljjwa.jpg


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psfyqs4i87.jpg


Not too bad. 2.5 hours and the holes were laid out, cut and cleaned up...Now I had to vent the heat from between the joists. Off to Home Depot to get a bathroom fan and vent cover...

I cut a hole in the soffit to cut the boxer out and then installed the fan, so it would suck out the heat into the roof jacks and voila... Ready for the next step

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...pskfpm1s93.jpg


I put hooks in the floor sheathing and hung each pendant. Ran the cords thru the joists and down to the Galaxie ballasts, which connected to the Apex..The pendants fit perfectly within the floor joists. Left about 3" to the floor sheathing and I made the openings about 3 inches larger. The pendant glass was flush with the drywall. This gave me about 8" above the tank now.


The T5s were installed as well as some strip led lights from Home Depot. The LEDs were for the moonlights.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psqvqowxjc.jpg


Lights done, now for the canopy

reefwithareefer 06-30-2015 04:45 AM

It has taken some time and thinking of how to build the canopy. I did not want them on hinges as that would impede what little room I had to access the tank. Drawer sliders were too complicated to design and install, etc etc
I chose to use a friction fit design. I had cupboard doors from the salvage, that were the same wood and stain, so that decision was easy...

Cut to size.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psctrzqydv.jpg

Now to design the friction fit...I always found a trip to Home Depot will help with figuring out the design of stuff.See what there is and if I can incorporate it into the build...

I picked up some felt pads, a few black, rectangular, aluminum hand rail pickets, cabinet door magnets, screws and the design was done in my head and the result was...

This

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psbjjkwqns.jpg


The pieces were cut to size, then I pre-drilled some holes in the picket and screwed it to the wood. Added the felt pads to the underside of the picket, so the aluminum does not touch the glass. I also added some to the face for safety sakes. Last thing was to install the door magnets. These would hold it from tipping outwards and the felt pads helped keep the friction fit , nice and tight.

With the 2 pieces up

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psbajxgsu4.jpg

One off

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ps8mhl2xl2.jpg

Both off

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psqvqowxjc.jpg

Other side

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...pszedvrhm1.jpg

Still need to finish this up

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psvnqjuujl.jpg



I will hinge the end piece so that it can be swung down easily to feed the fish etc...

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...ps05soirc1.jpg


Misc pics of the canopy and lights

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psejdun3v5.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psedaeflyn.jpg

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psbeyegtug.jpg


Cabinet magnets

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psae6ztz8w.jpg


Inside the canopy
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psejdun3v5.jpg

reefwithareefer 06-30-2015 09:18 PM

Last of the updating for a bit or until I get a better camera than my Iphone..
I had asked what I should do to my lighting etc so that my corals would "pop" like Slyguys and most said it is most likely a water issue and change the T5s to ATI blues. So I hooked up the diatom filter and installed some ATI actinics that i had not used yet..Pretty blue for me, but an improvement. Still nothin like Slyguys...

Quality of pics suck....

Left side of tank. The cultured stone wall is starting to blend in. Only have a few encrusting corals on it for now.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psqsgavabg.jpg


Center

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psim97thxh.jpg


Left side

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...pshe3r5bab.jpg


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psxlxwmhj0.jpg

End of tank

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psurrnvgng.jpg


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psgumu6vga.jpg


http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...psbljsvmfl.jpg


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