Speaking as a retailer both Fabricators and Engineers should try out my profession :razz:.

How easy it is to take your stress out on the poor customer service rep.

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I wouldn't last an hour as a customer service rep. Too long in construction I have no mouth filter and a short temper lol

+1 although I'd be happy with them just going to school in general then maybe they wouldn't be so eager to blame all their problems on someone else. I can't spell, I can't read fractions, I can't read drawings, what does mm stand for?.... Damn engineer! :lol:

I believe it always precede's "bacon"... Mmmmm, Bacon :D

All jokes a side there are good engineers and plenty of terrible ones to, no different than fabricators or any other profession (trust me I could tell some stories). All the engineers I work with directly have plenty of field experience, some more than office. I myself started in manufacturing, first in a machine shop then in heavy equipment, now in oil in gas I often go to site to address issues hands on. This is pretty typical for many engineers, some universities even require field or shop experience.

As someone that sells to structural fabricators on a daily basis I get to feel a little of their frustration when a column in the 14"x14" family is called for. Sure I can get it.....but you want it when??? Lol. What does mm mean? Now that's funny..... Well actually kind of scary.

That is one thing I would never say I understand completely is the major math factor. I would have loved to go take engineering then I could have charged a helz of a lot more fore my time.

I blame that all on the Structual Metals Handbook for Engineers, I have the last 2 additions & there are so many items that are not available to Canada or at all anywhere in North America.

Those are some of the BC & East Coast imports :lol: I have work in many shops & unions jobs & there are many many so called welder who think they are fabricators that can't even build a square box from a piece of square tube. :surprise:

Coming originally from an Automotive background, I used to think Engineers would wake in the middle of the night, or just stay up nights, and think about ways to make servicing things difficult
I often would think 'cmon, what where you thinking when you designed this ?

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