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fencer 02-16-2010 04:23 AM

Here is a related link ...just for interesting reading

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...php?p=16595525

banditpowdercoat 02-16-2010 04:30 AM

IO has made something similar too???

Pescador 02-16-2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 492671)
IO has made something similar too???

It kind of sounds like theirs is a liquid you add to your tank. It settles out then dissolves over time?

Delphinus 02-16-2010 03:44 PM

I was trying to look up some of the links referenced .. yeah, so it seems as it there is already some kind of liquid product, then references to a plastic intended for mold injection or something like that? I didn't really have tiome to read it all and digest it all so I'm not sure what's up with that.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least though if other brands wanted a piece of this action sooner or later. They're just that good!!

kien 02-16-2010 03:52 PM

I just can't wait until they make coloured pellets or glow in the dark. Then I can hang the reactor outside (of my stand) and watch them bubble.:lol:

fencer 02-16-2010 04:49 PM

I have heard that you can use molasses as a carbon source as well

Coleus 02-17-2010 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by globaldesigns (Post 492605)
I am seeing some real changes now... Algae on glass is dead and just hanging on,

Does this mean i have to look for a new home for my 4 urchins soon?

kien 02-17-2010 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleus (Post 493069)
Does this mean i have to look for a new home for my 4 urchins soon?

my urchin eats coraline, which the bio pellets have not affected.

Coleus 02-17-2010 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kien (Post 493070)
my urchin eats coraline, which the bio pellets have not affected.

phew, glad to hear

Kryptic4L 02-17-2010 06:36 AM

just waiting on my shipment still, started phase 1 of my mesh / foamless reactor

Pescador 02-17-2010 02:05 PM

Speaking of urchins, its probably unrelated to the pellets but my 5 year old long-spine is in the corner losing its spines. There seems to be less algae on the front glass and the skimmers are starting to produce a little more.

Coleus 02-19-2010 05:34 AM

Ok, the skimmage smell is so bad. My wife can smell it 10 feets away when i empty the cup

My nitrate reading still not dropping with api test kit after 5 days running. I do see lots of mulms like Tony described

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/pic...pictureid=2746

Kryptic4L 02-19-2010 06:20 AM

coleus, I believe they were using a pinpoint nitrate monitor to watch. I believe the test kit's were rather inconclusive.

Chin_Lee 02-20-2010 01:10 AM

Is anybody monitoring their ORP while using this product? My ozone generator has been offline for some time now and the ORP was hovering around 380 mark +/- 20 mv. I started with the NP pellets and my ORP has steadily dropped to 260 mv. Not sure what it is today but has anybody else noted their ORP levels dropping?

globaldesigns 02-20-2010 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chin_Lee (Post 493989)
Is anybody monitoring their ORP while using this product? My ozone generator has been offline for some time now and the ORP was hovering around 380 mark +/- 20 mv. I started with the NP pellets and my ORP has steadily dropped to 260 mv. Not sure what it is today but has anybody else noted their ORP levels dropping?

Sorry no, I haven't done so, nor do I have any way to.

I haven't even tested nitrates, etc... Just watching to positive affects to algae depletion, water clearness and overall color happiness

kien 02-20-2010 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chin_Lee (Post 493989)
Is anybody monitoring their ORP while using this product? My ozone generator has been offline for some time now and the ORP was hovering around 380 mark +/- 20 mv. I started with the NP pellets and my ORP has steadily dropped to 260 mv. Not sure what it is today but has anybody else noted their ORP levels dropping?

my orp (Profilux ORP probe connected to controller) was hovering around 410 prior to the pellets and now it is still hovering around 410. So I haven't noticed any change. Lots of people were reporting tonnes of mulm from their pellets, and although I had some, It did not get out of control. I think Tony said that when he shook his pellets his entire tank went snowy ? All that mulm could cause your ORP to drop maybe ? So if an ORP drop is caused by the pellets then either the mulm isn't being consumed or skimmed out fast enough maybe?

RuGlu6 02-20-2010 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chin_Lee (Post 493989)
Is anybody monitoring their ORP while using this product? My ozone generator has been offline for some time now and the ORP was hovering around 380 mark +/- 20 mv. I started with the NP pellets and my ORP has steadily dropped to 260 mv. Not sure what it is today but has anybody else noted their ORP levels dropping?

ORP in my tank did not change at all, it was 350 and still 350 after a month or so of using the pellets.

( side note: i have a lot of air going through an air driven skimmer in addition to Deltec 600 skimmer )

Pescador 02-20-2010 11:36 PM

My ORP hasn't really changed still at 340. I've got a lot of flow that's really churning 2 litres of pellets and haven't noticed any mulm yet.

Delphinus 02-21-2010 01:06 AM

Yeah, now that I've been able to resolve the clumping issues I don't have the mulm buildup anymore. I just had a tiny bit too much pellets for the phosban reactor, that's why I'm telling people now they're better off running fewer pellets than the recommendation because it will still work fine, just run out sooner, but will work better because of the increased mulm shedding.

ALBERTA REEF 02-21-2010 07:20 PM

Well I am up and running with the N/P pellets. One of my sleepless night projects. Did testing to phosphate 1.0mg/l and nitrate 25mg/l. Elos test kits. I can tell the pellets are working by the smell burping out of my skimmer. We will see how it works and that I get practice using my test kit.:biggrin:

Coleus 02-23-2010 03:18 AM

well i totally fail on this. I was away for couple days and the mulm build up that clog up the reactor. I think i am done with TLF, going to look for a big reactor that can do the job

globaldesigns 02-23-2010 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleus (Post 494874)
well i totally fail on this. I was away for couple days and the mulm build up that clog up the reactor. I think i am done with TLF, going to look for a big reactor that can do the job

I personally use a Deltec Fluidizer, without using any sponges/foam inside. I have 1.5L of Pellets running with a MJ1200. They tumble quite nicely and there is about 1.5-2 inches of space from top of output and top of tumbling pellets.

Things work well and no pellets are expelled from the reactor. I personally would recommend that everyone not use the foam inside and try to get tumbling without forcing the pellets to the top.

These pellets once soaked for a bit do sink, and therefore if flow is correct won't end up in aquarium.

Canadian 02-23-2010 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coleus (Post 494874)
well i totally fail on this. I was away for couple days and the mulm build up that clog up the reactor. I think i am done with TLF, going to look for a big reactor that can do the job

Stop using the sponges. Go to Michaels and get some plastic needlepoint/cross stitch canvas/mesh. Cut it out to the shape of the round disks in the TLF reactor (actually just slightly larger - more like the size of the internal dimensions of the reactor). I'd put it on both sides of both disks to ensure none of the pellets escape. Use a hot glue gun to secure it to the disks. Run all the flow you want until the cows come home. Bob's you're uncle.

I have this mesh in my TLF reactor running Biopellets (on one side only hence the recommendation to put it on both if you're intending to nearly fill the reactor) and it's heavily fluidizing the pellets and they all stay in the reactor.

Picture of previously mentioned mesh (Mine's black. I got it from Michael's. It also comes in white) :

http://z.about.com/d/crossstitch/1/6.../-/pcanvas.jpg

burrows14 02-23-2010 03:51 AM

Im upgrading tanks in a couple of week and moving all my rock and using 100% new water and subtrate. Will moving my current pellets to the new tank cause any problems because of not as much bacteria or will they just prevent any issues in my tank right from the get go?

hillbillyreefer 02-23-2010 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burrows14 (Post 494903)
Im upgrading tanks in a couple of week and moving all my rock and using 100% new water and subtrate. Will moving my current pellets to the new tank cause any problems because of not as much bacteria or will they just prevent any issues in my tank right from the get go?

There is always some die off when you move from one tank to another. I'd think having established BP would be a great benefit to the new tank. It should help to keep the mini cycle that's going to happen to a minimum.

Coleus 02-23-2010 06:20 PM

Thanks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canadian (Post 494883)
Stop using the sponges. Go to Michaels and get some plastic needlepoint/cross stitch canvas/mesh. Cut it out to the shape of the round disks in the TLF reactor (actually just slightly larger - more like the size of the internal dimensions of the reactor). I'd put it on both sides of both disks to ensure none of the pellets escape. Use a hot glue gun to secure it to the disks. Run all the flow you want until the cows come home. Bob's you're uncle.

I have this mesh in my TLF reactor running Biopellets (on one side only hence the recommendation to put it on both if you're intending to nearly fill the reactor) and it's heavily fluidizing the pellets and they all stay in the reactor.

Picture of previously mentioned mesh (Mine's black. I got it from Michael's. It also comes in white) :

http://z.about.com/d/crossstitch/1/6.../-/pcanvas.jpg


OceanicCorals-Ian- 02-23-2010 06:49 PM

Update! AGAIN.

We are still waiting for our large order of Biopellets to arrive, it seems the manufacturer is having difficulties keeping up with demand on these Pellets. We should see our order late this week and will ship out all orders at once.

If you have ordered Pellets from us we appreciate your patience!

O.C.

OceanicCorals-Ian- 02-23-2010 07:18 PM


We are now stocking the MOD material for the reactors and it is available on our website for those that don't have access to it. We are also offering a MOD service to all our reactors and installing the mesh for use with the Biopellets, this is an option that is selectable on the reactor listings..

O.C.

Coleus 02-24-2010 03:14 AM

I think i am going to order a Vertex reactor. Wait for Kien to try it out :-)

burrows14 02-24-2010 03:20 AM

can the vertex reactor be in sump?

don.ald 02-24-2010 03:26 AM

i would think most would keep it in the sump?

OceanicCorals-Ian- 02-24-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burrows14 (Post 495306)
can the vertex reactor be in sump?

Vertex reactor can be in sump or out.

Coleus 02-25-2010 05:50 AM

Despite all problems with TLF reactor that I have, imy nitrate is going down from 20 to 15 after 2 weeks running ( and i skipped the water change)

dreef 02-25-2010 10:46 PM

Have you recieved another batch of pellets yet Ian ?

OceanicCorals-Ian- 02-25-2010 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreef (Post 495904)
Have you recieved another batch of pellets yet Ian ?


Actually I received three of the 500ml but all were sold and have shipped out. I have about 30 bags of the 1000ml bags that will be here tomorrow or Monday. I believe I have 3-4 bags that are not spoken for yet.

:mrgreen:

RuGlu6 02-25-2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 494171)
Yeah, now that I've been able to resolve the clumping issues I don't have the mulm buildup anymore. I just had a tiny bit too much pellets for the phosban reactor, that's why I'm telling people now they're better off running fewer pellets than the recommendation because it will still work fine, just run out sooner, but will work better because of the increased mulm shedding.

I want the mulm ! :mrgreen: or at least to see how it looks LOL.

artrye 02-27-2010 04:36 PM

I've been running the BioPellets since January, 2 TLF 550 reactors 500mL in each, sponges have been cut in half. Both reactors have a Maxi 1200. I just cannot make all the pellets tumble. Only half of the pellets will tumble and the other half just sits there. Is this fine?
For the time i've had my biopellets, I have slowly taken away the vodka, nitrates and phosphates are @ 0. Excellent polyp extension, clear water, I could not be more impressed with the pellets. Just wondering about the tumbling cause I dont want any type of build up in the reactor. I've tried the full 1L of pellets in one reactor, same result. I've tried a 600 gph, same result. Running out of ideas, maybe I should get a different reactor. Anyone have any suggestions?

Canadian 02-27-2010 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artrye (Post 496538)
I've been running the BioPellets since January, 2 TLF 550 reactors 500mL in each, sponges have been cut in half. Both reactors have a Maxi 1200. I just cannot make all the pellets tumble. Only half of the pellets will tumble and the other half just sits there. Is this fine?
For the time i've had my biopellets, I have slowly taken away the vodka, nitrates and phosphates are @ 0. Excellent polyp extension, clear water, I could not be more impressed with the pellets. Just wondering about the tumbling cause I dont want any type of build up in the reactor. I've tried the full 1L of pellets in one reactor, same result. I've tried a 600 gph, same result. Running out of ideas, maybe I should get a different reactor. Anyone have any suggestions?

Go back one page and read post 223.

Alohatropics 03-02-2010 02:11 AM

Hi everyone,

I have a question. I've been running Zeovit with Biopellets within the same KZ 6L reactor. Have you guys stopped dosing ZeoStart2? I was assuming that since NP Biopellets is already a carbon source, it would be unnecessary to dose Start2 as this would be dosing even more carbon.

For those running a hybrid system like this, please let me know if your doing the same, thanks
!

OceanicCorals-Ian- 03-02-2010 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alohatropics (Post 497392)
Hi everyone,

I have a question. I've been running Zeovit with Biopellets within the same KZ 6L reactor. Have you guys stopped dosing ZeoStart2? I was assuming that since NP Biopellets is already a carbon source, it would be unnecessary to dose Start2 as this would be dosing even more carbon.

For those running a hybrid system like this, please let me know if your doing the same, thanks
!

We do not recommend running the two together in the same reactor, the pellets need to be tumbled aggressively separate from the Zeolites. I would still dose the Start2 but at a reduced rate.


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