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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 747383)

my point exactly lol you mentioned earlier about the refractometer...i remember that thread.....this is the exact same thing over again:P

Haha :P

Well lets forget about the money. Sometimes, we have to overlook it and till now, I have done it and I am ready to do it (even if I have to cut down the meal per day :P). I just need to cure my fish :(

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Originally Posted by Seth81 (Post 747377)

Any thoughts on if you don't see Ich for 2- 3 months if it will actually be gone? or still be present just waiting for a weak immune system?

Always going to be there, apparently. Only way to get rid of it is to leave the tank empty for some amount of time, then QT and treat all incoming livestock.

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 747384)

I just need to cure my fish :(

To "cure" your fish, you're going to need to QT, treat, and leave the display fallow.

Fallow for 2 months right?

And can I leave the corals and inverts in the DT?

I have a couple hundred worth of inverts coming from JL and I had two small fish added. I cancelled the fish yesterday, as my quarantine is not ready and after reading some of these threads and velvet threads, I decided just cant take that chance, even if very small.

My 12yr. old clowns are the only inhabitants of my 30g reef tank and even though they are pig headed "blanks", I would hate for anything to happen to them.

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 747387)

Fallow for 2 months right?

And can I leave the corals and inverts in the DT?

Everything I read suggests that Ich can only live on fish not inverts or coral.

The liverock and biofilter survive very well in hyposalinity but all pods will die, including aiptasia (good thing), feather duster, sea stars etc...they will all die.

It is best to treat in a QT and put a few pieces of liverock in there. The bacterias survive just fine and do their job in hyposalinity, so no worry about a cycle. Of course a skimmer will not work, so a small filter hang on tank like a magnum is usefull, especially with the micron filter to help catch those nasty parasites in the water.

This is why QT is so important because it may be a hassle to do a proper quarantine but it is FAR more of a hassle to have to treat fish once they are in the main tank full of rock and infected and suffering and dying. Having to deal with an infected tank is no better as each bout of stress can bring on a full level infection.

YOu got ich and it killed a few of your fish...you can imagine what velvet would do. All your fish would probably be dead, even if you treated them. It is that fast.

REally sad about your fish.

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Originally Posted by Seth81 (Post 747312)

I am going through a battle of ICH as well. Mine all started with a blue hippo tang that I did not quarantine when I got him. He was fine for a week or so until he jumped out of the tank while I was trying to rescue him from the overflow. I did rescue him from the floor and he was fine for a day, then ICH took hold of him. My wife and I tried to catch him for at least two hours but couldn't catch him for the life of us. Two days later I noticed ICH on 3 other fish. I have already been soaking mysis and flakes in Kent Garlic and running a UV sterilizer (at proper flow rate).

I have corals and cleaner shrimp so unwilling to do tank wide hypo or copper.

So I went to the LFS and the guy there recommended this Herbatana stuff. It's all natural and reef safe. That was 8 days ago and the ICH hasn't spread past the fish that already had it. But the fish that did have it before are getting worse. I lost the blue Hippo tang yesterday, and I'm sure I'll lose the Flame angel today or tomorrow.

From now on I will QT everything with coppermine. As for what to do now... well I guess just hope UV + Garlic and Herbatana minimizes losses. I would consider moving my coral and shrimp to a seperate tank while I do hypo, but not sure what hypos effect is on my 210 lbs of live rock :cry:

Ich can be such a pain!!!!!

I stopped using that Herbatana BS and just did a nice big 20% water change, turned up the flow on my UV sterilizer to the recommended flow rate to kill protozoa and every one looks much healthier (except I did lose my flame angel), only my rusty angel has a few spots on him, but every day the spots are getting fewer. I really thought I was going to lose my sail fin tang, phew!

Well like the saying goes "every tank is different from every other tank". Some find that herbals work while others don't. For example, ick attack is working great for me. My fishes are well recovered.

So it totally depend on the tank. If herbals didn't actually work, then those products wouldn't have been on the market for years. It does work but not in every tank.

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Originally Posted by Seth81 (Post 749322)