it amazes me that anything well primed and glued can leak I've never experienced this before. good luck I imagine removing glued sections will suck a little.

I have to ask because it jumped out at me, what did you use the sand paper for?

Every once in awhile I tend to go on a little rant. :mrgreen:

I'm not sure how it's "to expensive of a Band-Aid fix" and I wouldn't necessarily call them a Band-Aid appication for all users. For my tank, 300+ total water volume it costs me $80.00 - 120.00 a year to run BP's. How much would it cost me in salt per year to do a 30% weekly or bi-weekly water change to export nitrates? If you're going to do the math I use H2Ocean and a 30% change is going to be roughly 105 gallons.

BP's can be an alternative method of controlling nitrate and not just a Band-Aid solution. There are far too many people out there who feel things should only be done one way and one way only without taking the time to examine how alternative solutions are being applied. I'd ask those same people to throw out their GFO, Carbon as well as their Skimmer because you should be doing water changes and improving your husbandry.

To the people that complain Bio-Pellets crashed thier tank:

Too much Carbon = Crashed Tank
Too Much GFO = Crashed Tank
Over Skimming = Crashed Tank
The list can go on and on


Edit: I should probably edit this post as it's a little more aggressive then it should be, it was early and my head is aching from an ear infection, maybe it was the Advil...

Thanks Parker, you said what I was thinking.

I agree bio-pellets are simply another media we use to facilitate the removal of something we don't want. Same as carbon, gfo etc. I don't use them but I wouldn't call them a band-aid fix.

My issue with biopellets are the many people I know personally that have had major issues with their tank when starting up the biopellets. I just think they are too fussy. This is the same reason I don't recommend Zeovit to novice reef keepers. Ya, biopellets can work, Zeovit can work. I simply stated I have no use for biopellets as I feel nitrate can be controlled with proper maintenance.

Very true Myka, there are some tricks to starting pellets that most people over look like starting them to soon, using to much at initial start up & not having them tumbling as much as they should. ATM the way my set-up is built I don't have the ability to do large water changes being on a septic system and they really help keep my nitrate & phosphate down to zero.

all my years i have never had any leaks and i pile it on that is the key and i dont use primer or rough it up and put it on ad turn it 3 times complete and tah daaaaaa its GTG

It looks like you have some PVC to ABS fittings together, did you use a transition glue? Wrong glues could cause a leak or weak joint. I've never had to sand any plastic pipe fittings before, usually the fit is almost water tight as is and the wet glue helps slide the pieces all the way together.

Hey....sorry for the late replies.... the stainless welds have been calling 14 hrs a day.....
and ontop of that..... lol in my tired rum n coke state i tried to attach my skimmer to a direct overflor pipe..... 24hrs and nothing..... cant be working right so i will have to add power pumps submersed and start from scratch there.....
No abs to PVC in this run i did it all first pics abs and top notch as best i could....problem was I was roughing with sandpaper and it worked against me..... straight cuts and double glue from here on out.......ive done a thousand joints and never had a problem.....seems its just when it counts it gives the headaches....
Any advice or imput is more than appreciated :)
Got the return side all up and running but the skimmer side.....tooo much pump to keep the water in the 100 gph sump.... tried running full on one solid overflow with air injector....no go..... so back to the drawing bored....
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