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Slyguy00 06-27-2014 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kien (Post 904151)
My chosen method is to dose sweat and tears into my tank! It's unproven but works for me.


:lol:

PFoster 07-03-2014 12:58 AM

weird, its not letting me quote people in my thread....

Kien: My chosen method is to dose sweat and tears into my tank! It's unproven but works for me.


Please be advised that this is not the correct method for dosing your tank.

Tears contain NaCl so dosing them to your tank will upset the ionic imbalance and then mysterious bad things will occur.
We cant really tell you what these "bad things" are but i can assure you that they will be catastrophically bad and may result in things like the equivalent of genital warts for you acropora :)


We do believe in dosing blood to the tank though. We do it all the time while unboxing order with straight razor blades.
While it does not contain the correct ration of amino acids we do find that it does increase acropora coloration by 2 joules per cubic meter.

Better lock my thread right away and change all my previous posts before anyone can post and debate my flawless science here.

wuahahahahahaha


Please do not regard any of the above as anything but complete nonsense :P

reefwars 07-03-2014 01:21 AM

Sure just as I start to dose tears it's now a bad thing lol

reefermadness 07-03-2014 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PFoster (Post 904789)
weird, its not letting me quote people in my thread....

Kien: My chosen method is to dose sweat and tears into my tank! It's unproven but works for me.


Please be advised that this is not the correct method for dosing your tank.

Tears contain NaCl so dosing them to your tank will upset the ionic imbalance and then mysterious bad things will occur.
We cant really tell you what these "bad things" are but i can assure you that they will be catastrophically bad and may result in things like the equivalent of genital warts for you acropora :)


We do believe in dosing blood to the tank though. We do it all the time while unboxing order with straight razor blades.
While it does not contain the correct ration of amino acids we do find that it does increase acropora coloration by 2 joules per cubic meter.

Better lock my thread right away and change all my previous posts before anyone can post and debate my flawless science here.

wuahahahahahaha


Please do not regard any of the above as anything but complete nonsense :P

I hate it when my acropora get the coral equivalent to genital warts.:lol:

Wait a minute do corals even have genitals? They do spawn I guess.

PFoster 07-03-2014 06:12 PM

Please be advised that this continual banter is complete and total nonsense where in another sponsor is trying to use fear and pseudo science to claim a product they sell is the only option for a healthy aquarium and anything else will somehow cause damaged to your tank.

Anyone that understand the basics of maintaining chemistry in the aquarium realizes that this is complete and total hogwash.

We at Reef Wholesale do not believe in the
"Buy my product now or you can not possibly be successful with maintaining an aquarium!!"


As we stated above several times, there are many ways to maintain your water chemistry.
The absolute most important thing that you should do as a hobbiest IMO if you want a happy and healthy tank is provide stable parameters.
Thats it!
We have years and years of experience maintaining happy, healthy well colored and fast growing corals using a whole variety of different methods.
Everything from
CARX
Kalk
CARX + Kalk
2 Part (with cheap bulk chemicals and very high end lab grade)
ESV
Full balling (yeah thats right!)
Balling light

Our preferred method for maintaining the parameters that we shoot for is the Balling Light system from Fauna Marin. We have stated why we prefer this method in the posts above so please feel free to read above. Proof is in the pudding and we have posted some pretty baller pictures with some very clearly happy and healthy corals that have been maintained under the Balling light system from Fauna for several years now.

Because we have used ALL of these system I personally can give advise to anyone on the advantages/disadvantages of each system and how to run each system successfully. Additionally we can easily acknowledge that ANY of these system can be used to maintain happy and healthy corals.

There is no winner here.
But there are definitely looser spouting used car sales man tactics and fear propaganda to try to scare people into buying their product.

I really did not want to get into this but this tactic is just not cool and does not better the hobby in any way.

The entire idea of a war is ridiculous.
There is no war!
If you feel that there is a war, take your info up against Randy Homes Farley again on RC under the post in the chemistry forum please. It did not go so well last time though....


The only thing that matters is the success of hobbyists is keeping nice and healthy corals.

If you want to use the full balling system please do. It works.
We actually have the full balling system in stock right now!
With NaCl free salts and trace elements.
The NaCl free salts are in the old square containers as nobody has used this system in a crazy long time but we have them.

If you want to use Balling Light, we have them in stock too with the Fauna Marin dosing pumps.

And if you want to use 2 part, try contacting BRS. They sell a TON of it!!
2 part works.
Period.
Thats why its the number one system used in the world!
Oh and did we mention that you can use the trace elements from Fauna with the 2 part method from BRS?
Yes this would improve your 2 part system to include the missing trace elements.
Basically then you are using balling light, the only difference from this to the Fauna system would be that Fauna uses bio polymers in their additives to increase coral coloration and growth.

Here is a video from BRS on how to use the Fauna Marin Balling trace elements with bulk chemicals for 2 part.

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...serialNumber=1

And the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8YryqSScKI


And here is yet again, more proof of the super happy and healthy corals that you can maintain, grow and color up using the Fauna Marin Balling light system.
No catastrophic ionic imbalance.
Just awesome corals.

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...serialNumber=4

PFoster 07-03-2014 08:30 PM

To answer the question posed:

Trick question.

According to Randy Homes Farley there is no imbalance in using 2 part WITH the addition of the third part.

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...serialNumber=1

Full details about 2 part and the science behind it are available here.
http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-02/rhf/

If you wish to debate RHF and 2 part I highly suggest that you take up the debate on Reef central in the chemistry forum.

Kwood 07-08-2014 09:17 PM

mmmm puddin'. Dont worry guys, I wont waste your time with pictures of salt boxes. Just straight colourful corals grown and cared for with tender care under the hands of Reef Wholesale with Fauna Marin.

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...2_itemId=23879

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...2_itemId=23867

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...2_itemId=23990

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...2_itemId=23996

Kwood 07-15-2014 11:51 PM

The good ol' boys at Mad Jelly Corals sent us pictures... No, not Long in a speedo doing the spread eagle while making a PB&J sandwich... Of their corals and how they look using Fauna Marin Balling Lite and Trace Elements together with Color Elements. Lets post up a few and see. More to come.

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...serialNumber=3

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...serialNumber=3

tparsons 07-16-2014 10:03 PM

Take a peak at some more awesomeness from Mad Jelly Corals!

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...serialNumber=3

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...serialNumber=3

http://reefwholesale.com/gallery/mai...serialNumber=3

Fragged up, grown out and coloured up
using
Fauna Marin Balling Light System and Trace Elements!

The Results speak for themselves!

reefermadness 07-17-2014 12:46 AM

Wow.....did they take those shots? If so they are getting better with the camera.


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