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mrhasan 10-18-2012 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 755808)
Egh pics still won't post getting soo frustrated errrrrrr:twised:

I see a big turtle :O

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 01:03 AM

Really it posted Leo my tortoise and my sump...??

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 755809)
I see a big turtle :O

Where do you see all I see is a question mark sign

mrhasan 10-18-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 755810)
Really it posted Leo my tortoise and my sump...??

I had to go to the link to see it :P

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 755812)
I had to go to the link to see it :P

Really sweet can you my other pics of my building sump?

mrhasan 10-18-2012 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 755813)
Really sweet can you my other pics of my building sump?

I can see this one ;)

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/...ps84971cc6.jpg

Boxboy 10-18-2012 01:10 AM

Cute looking tortoise, the sump aint bad either!
Where did you get him?

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 755814)


Sweet ill keep the pics coming then lol..srry about that he just wouldn't stop bumping into me or the tank so I just took the pic lol...

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Boxboy (Post 755815)
Cute looking tortoise, the sump aint bad either!
Where did you get him?

Thank you thats my Leo boy lol..awsome/best pet ever lol..got him off Kijiji lol he was kinda a rescue..same with my 8 aquatic turtles :)..

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 01:24 AM

http://s1211.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=3

Pre fitting in the tank:biggrin:

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 755821)

Hopefully you guys can see image let me know:biggrin:

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 01:41 AM

http://s1211.beta.photobucket.com/us...tml?sort=3&o=3

Pre planning of sump

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 02:24 AM

I've got a eshopps nano over flow box 200 gallons a hr it does so should the Return pump be 200 gph too?Or bigger or what?

The Grizz 10-18-2012 03:31 AM

Return pump must match the overflow rate or it will give you nothing but issues.

And no I can't seen the pics other then the one with the sump & turtle.

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Grizz (Post 755867)
Return pump must match the overflow rate or it will give you nothing but issues.

And no I can't seen the pics other then the one with the sump & turtle.

Thats wat I thought. I was thinking 300gph return pump for the 3 ft tops its gota push water up...ive got a pro 3 pump giving too me not sure rating tag is wore off can't find any where I assume it's 300 gph from the 3 I tested it and it dont push water out took hard its pumping tho lol..what you think??and could a ball valve slow the flow from return pump if needed

The Grizz 10-18-2012 03:46 AM

You could go with a pump that is rated for more by I would use a gate valve over a ball valve as you will need to do some fine tuning to make sure the overflow does not overflow.

mrhasan 10-18-2012 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 755828)

Try copying the link of the image instead of the whole website link. Go to the link you are posting, right click on the image and select "copy image URL" and paste the link that got copied.

http://i1211.photobucket.com/albums/...ps23ee1855.jpg

:)

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 04:32 AM

I'm doing all this off tablet and cant right click been touch screen so gotta test some more I guess thank you

nanoreefnewbie 10-18-2012 09:26 PM

http://IMG_00000027_zps84971cc6.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

Just test image:biggrin:

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 03:33 AM

Well got my mini refug sump goin but still can't figure out pics..dam this tablet:sad::twised: it looks awsome ..still got add the skimmer but everything all balanced out nice no over flow tank or over flow box...wish I could show all you:neutral:

mrhasan 10-22-2012 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 756992)
Well got my mini refug sump goin but still can't figure out pics..dam this tablet:sad::twised: it looks awsome ..still got add the skimmer but everything all balanced out nice no over flow tank or over flow box...wish I could show all you:neutral:

Wanna trade your dammed tablet for a lesson on uploading pic? ;)

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mrhasan (Post 757006)
Wanna trade your dammed tablet for a lesson on uploading pic? ;)

You know I'm almost tempted but with no tablet no can reef and that is not worth bartering...ill figure it out some time dam thing

mrhasan 10-22-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 757226)
You know I'm almost tempted but with no tablet no can reef and that is not worth bartering...ill figure it out some time dam thing

Hahaha. Good point ;)

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 10:29 PM

Well today has been a disaster my sump baffles broke my black brittle starfish went throw the power head really lame another hermit is showing signs of moltin..im speechless...Just too much so might be just ducking outta this hobby... Not ready too waste cash into things that die in a month...:sad:

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 10:30 PM

I've been doing water changes daily and still doesn't work out

reefwars 10-22-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 757259)
I've been doing water changes daily and still doesn't work out

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hats half your problem right there , who told you to do daily water changes??

Boxboy 10-22-2012 11:02 PM

Changing water daily removes the Good stuff! Basicly to much to fast = Heartbroken Reefer!
Just go slower, Im sure things will look up :)

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 11:09 PM

Look back in my forms my hermits are molting my nitrates won't go down...i was told daily water changes till nitrates lower....:sad:...idk if might just shut down tank...was told too do a sump that was a disaster...it's expensive this hobby I'm not hurting or poor just can't waste money...

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Grizz (Post 755558)
I would guess that there is the culprit, maybe still some die off from the rock. Your going to have to do daily water changes of at least 25% until thing stabilize for sure. If you have another salt tank going you could exchange a few pieces to help stabilize.

Here's one

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Enigma (Post 755446)
Your nitrates are really, really high for a reef. You need to get those way down. I would say below 5ppm. I'd do 50% water changes daily to get it down.

Another..a few others said 50% daily water changes

reefwars 10-22-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nanoreefnewbie (Post 757276)
Look back in my forms my hermits are molting my nitrates won't go down...i was told daily water changes till nitrates lower....:sad:...idk if might just shut down tank...was told too do a sump that was a disaster...it's expensive this hobby I'm not hurting or poor just can't waste money...


your crabs are molting from the constant water changes , they are known to do it after a water change and sudden changes.

daily water changes are not good for anyones tank.....ever...unless your doing azoox and are forced to then weekly water changes are enough.

have you determined where the nitrates are coming from, that should be your first step???


once you know its a matter of cutting off that resource and removing the excess pollution.

you cant remove it with water changes if your adding it just as fast right??

i would be happy to help if you have any questions, post or pm either way your not stuck alone , theres lots of brains here to pick.

cheers!

reefwars 10-22-2012 11:19 PM

the golden rule is "nothing happens fast in a reeftank but disaster"

the other is " the secret to pollution is dillution"

their ideas were right but the method is too fast, perhaps if you had no livestock in the tank but with critters in the tank i wouldnt be doing large water changes like that daily.


if your going to do on average 10% weekly water changes , then what you should do or have done is a larger water change (20-40%) then continue weekly with your 10%

this is only assuming you knnow where the nitrates are coming from and have a way to battle them??

Boxboy 10-22-2012 11:19 PM

^^^ Yup, Find the source and fix it.
What is your water source?
How much live or dry rock is in your tank?
Any livestock besides snails?
What are you using for flow?

yes many ppl here will help you correct any issues and help you to be successful! ;)

reefwars 10-22-2012 11:22 PM

really in a small tank water changes and a little husbandry should be all thats required to battle nitrates .

if your overstocked or overfeed and add pollution to the tiny tank it will snowball fast into high nutrients.

battle them from the beginning allowing time to adjust and cut down on the sources.


then kiss your trates good bye!!

cheers

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 757280)
the golden rule is "nothing happens fast in a reeftank but disaster"

the other is " the secret to pollution is dillution"

their ideas were right but the method is too fast, perhaps if you had no livestock in the tank but with critters in the tank i wouldnt be doing large water changes like that daily.


if your going to do on average 10% weekly water changes , then what you should do or have done is a larger water change (20-40%) then continue weekly with your 10%

this is only assuming you knnow where the nitrates are coming from and have a way to battle them??

I'm sure it's from the rock curing...

nanoreefnewbie 10-22-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Boxboy (Post 757281)
^^^ Yup, Find the source and fix it.
What is your water source?
How much live or dry rock is in your tank?
Any livestock besides snails?
What are you using for flow?

yes many ppl here will help you correct any issues and help you to be successful! ;)

I think it's from my curing rock...
Ro water is been used
40lbs rocks 38 dry/2 live too seed
Hermits and was black brittle starfish got chopped in power head
Power head and hob filter for flow

Enigma 10-23-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 757280)
their ideas were right but the method is too fast, perhaps if you had no livestock in the tank but with critters in the tank i wouldnt be doing large water changes like that daily.

With nitrates as high as they were, I would absolutely do the big water changes daily until they were back inline. Truthfully, if it was my tank, I would have done closer to 100%. I have done it in the past, and I would absolutely do it again. Providing the critical parameters are close between the NSW and the tank water there shouldn't be any issues at all.

The hermits molting isn't a big deal (typically). The brittle star getting sucked into the powerhead sucks, but is most likely unrelated to the water changes. The broken sump baffles have nothing to do with the water changes either.

The only real "problem" that I see here is that the nitrates aren't coming down, and they are at dangerously high levels.

This means one of three things:
1) The test is faulty,
2) The NSW has nitrates, or
3) Something in the tank is generating an obscene amount of nitrates.

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Originally Posted by Boxboy (Post 757275)
Changing water daily removes the Good stuff!

In nano tanks the "good stuff" is typically added through water changes. What "good stuff" do you feel is being removed from the system through water changes?

nanoreefnewbie 10-23-2012 12:15 AM

It's just all adding up...things jus keep going wrong no matter how hard I try

Boxboy 10-23-2012 12:20 AM

I should have been more clear, I ment that if you change the water daily in a nano tank, basicly its not helpful and you end up removing to much bacteria to quickly that help stablize the tank to begine with! It really deppends on whats going on with it!
Yes there is exceptions to almost every rule and some rules can be flate out broken, but its simply best to follow advise from senior memebers when your in doubt.
I should have read the whole thread first probably, and without knowing much else other than "nitraits are high and im doing daily water changes" I would have to suggest relax on changing the water and find the source! Likely as stated before, faulty tests or there is something else going on.

Sorry to have been 100% clear in the begining!

reefwars 10-23-2012 12:30 AM

water changes wont remove anything beneficial , what ever it takes out it will relenish with the new salt.


after a cycle ive always done close to 100% for a water change , after that theres no reason your nitrates would be climbing high enough to merit further large water changes.


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