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Aquaria 05-09-2012 02:49 AM

Hey Paigee can u post a pic of ur Rics? Mainly the multicolor 1 curious cuz mines really colorless i assumed it was cuz of shipping but wanted to double check

ScubaSteve 05-09-2012 02:58 AM

I got SPS. One of them shmancy Red Rainbow Acros. Too bad it arrived as a bare skeleton. LOL. S@$* happens. Emailed Burc and he's going to make good on it in the next order. First time I've had an SPS die on me from him.

Also seems he messed up one of my frags. Was supposed to get a red/yellow favia, got a red and green favites or something. If you were supposed to get a red green favites, I have it.

PurpleMonkey 05-09-2012 03:05 AM

I'm going to give the acans a day to recover before I submitted my judgement...

ScubaSteve 05-09-2012 03:08 AM

What I've found in the past with Burc's orders is that a bunch of things lose color from shipping (especially reds) but bounce within a week or two. I've never had a frag from him that I've been unhappy with, even if it was the wrong one! :razz:

Paigee 05-09-2012 03:10 AM

Sorry to hear some people's orders didn't work out :( I'm not sure if I got the acans I ordered, but they are all healthy.

Aquaria, my rics both look good. Heres a pic
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...4/a3f6edd0.jpg

msjboy 05-09-2012 03:37 AM

My 3 acans look good but 2 of them look almost identical...guess one can go wrong with just $10 for an acan.
Msjboy

Coasting 05-09-2012 04:20 AM

None of my acans look like the acans everyone else is posting :(

They look so plump and nice and colourful and big (and this just sounds wrong).... and mine are like scragly froot loops!

Seems I got the wrong torch corals as well.... Did anyone else order Torch?
Ordered green and purple tip torch, got a yellow tip (ugly brown with bright tips) and some type of Frogspawn/octo thinger.

Coasting 05-09-2012 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coasting (Post 714953)
None of my acans look like the acans everyone else is posting :(

They look so plump and nice and colourful and big (and this just sounds wrong).... and mine are like scragly froot loops!

Seems I got the wrong torch corals as well.... Did anyone else order Torch?
Ordered green and purple tip torch, got a yellow tip (ugly brown with bright tips) and some type of Frogspawn/octo thinger.

Ordered
> 1- Green Torch - Per head $10
> 1- Purple Tip Torch - Per head frag $20
> 1- Red Aussie Acan - 3 Heads frag $10
> 1- Aussie Hulk Acan - 3 heads frag $10

Received
Yellow Tip Torch,
Some kinda frogspawn
Greenish acans
redish acans

Can somebody else who ordered Red Aussie Acans and Aussie Hulk acans confirm what theirs looked like?

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ewCoral056.jpg

Kryos 05-09-2012 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coasting (Post 714954)
Ordered
> 1- Green Torch - Per head $10
> 1- Purple Tip Torch - Per head frag $20
> 1- Red Aussie Acan - 3 Heads frag $10
> 1- Aussie Hulk Acan - 3 heads frag $10

Received
Yellow Tip Torch,
Some kinda frogspawn
Greenish acans
redish acans

Can somebody else who ordered Red Aussie Acans and Aussie Hulk acans confirm what theirs looked like?


Looking at your 2nd Choice Column on the spread sheet, it looks like you got everything but from your second choice.

Paigee 05-09-2012 04:38 AM

My acans look pretty good, I've seen both extend feeders already
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...4/8f27895a.jpg

This is my first acro, third sps overall, and it has colored up a bit and has partial polyp extension
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...4/74f0e842.jpg

And these are the pink/teal palys that I'm sure will colour up quite nicely. I'm surprised how many polyps I got, website said 15-20 and I count well over 20.
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...4/ad788ba4.jpg

Overall I'm impressed with my order, I'm interested to hear how the mistakes are corrected.

Also, huge shout out and thanks to Anthony! His big tank is beautiful, I'm glad I got a chance to see it!

Coasting 05-09-2012 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kryos (Post 714956)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Coasting http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/ima...s/viewpost.gif
Ordered
> 1- Green Torch - Per head $10
> 1- Purple Tip Torch - Per head frag $20
> 1- Red Aussie Acan - 3 Heads frag $10
> 1- Aussie Hulk Acan - 3 heads frag $10

Received
Yellow Tip Torch,
Some kinda frogspawn
Greenish acans
redish acans

Can somebody else who ordered Red Aussie Acans and Aussie Hulk acans confirm what theirs looked like?


Looking at your 2nd Choice Column on the spread sheet, it looks like you got everything but from your second choice.

I can understand that, however not once did I tell Burc I had those back ups, and I did confirm (a few times, im paranoid) that he had my original coral in stock and that I would be sent those ones. Plus the brown torch isn't really any of the picks, looks more like yellow tip or cream tip. Both Green Torch and Green tip torch are green polyp with green tip. Kinda sad, been waiting for a nice torch for months :( held out from buying a few ive seen lately since I knew these ones were coming.

htfn 05-09-2012 04:51 AM

I ordered 5 zoas and one acan.
3 zoas haven't open yet but the other 2 are not what I saw in his web pictures.
Acan is little bit damaged but I've got 5 heads instead of 3.
Oh well, I hope they will change a colour in the next few days or week.

Snaz 05-09-2012 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coasting (Post 714954)
Ordered
> 1- Green Torch - Per head $10
> 1- Purple Tip Torch - Per head frag $20
> 1- Red Aussie Acan - 3 Heads frag $10
> 1- Aussie Hulk Acan - 3 heads frag $10

Received
Yellow Tip Torch,
Some kinda frogspawn
Greenish acans
redish acans

Can somebody else who ordered Red Aussie Acans and Aussie Hulk acans confirm what theirs looked like?

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ewCoral056.jpg

Here is my red aussie acan. Teal and blueish edges, inner circle is brownish instead of red with blueish centers. Pretty much what is one his website, I expect the colours will improve.
http://snaz.com/marine/red_aussie_acan.jpg

This shot is true colour so the fluorescence is not popping to much. Tomorrow I'll punch up the blue leds and we can compare to the website shot.

Coasting 05-09-2012 06:18 AM

Seems like everyones acans are whole and have been a healed frag for awhile.... Mine looks fresh cut with only 1 true full head per frag.

Whatever those red/yellowishgreen acans are that Kryos got.... I WANT GIMMIE GIMMIE.

Aquaria 05-09-2012 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paigee (Post 714926)
Sorry to hear some people's orders didn't work out :( I'm not sure if I got the acans I ordered, but they are all healthy.

Aquaria, my rics both look good. Heres a pic
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/...4/a3f6edd0.jpg

Definitely not the same :( It's looks nice like on the site mine got a bit of color by the time the lights went out but nothing like yours ill post pics tomorrow I really hope it colors up more its a bland yellow atm

Paigee 05-09-2012 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquaria (Post 714998)
Definitely not the same :( It's looks nice like on the site mine got a bit of color by the time the lights went out but nothing like yours ill post pics tomorrow I really hope it colors up more its a bland yellow atm

Hmmm that's kinda lame. Hope it colors up for you!

Bblinks 05-09-2012 08:00 AM

Sorry to say guys but this is the same experience with my frag a lot order a while back.

I swear Burc has no clue about sps, I don't even think he knows what he's got. His collection of zoas isnt much better either. The batch we got was either doa or it was a blank frag plug not to mention missing orders. However I did receive a few nice acans, favia, and other lps.

The part that bugs me the most about Burc is that he is not a honest business person. When I confronted him about the missing pieces he knew that it was shorted even though he did refund some of my money but that's not the point. If I didn't ask about those missing pieces he would've never even said anything. You know when you order 14 piece and only 12 bags showed up, unless you failed grade 2 math you are gonna figure out f&@$ this guy is trying to rip me off intentionally. This is just not good business practice.

If you want quality service and product, snappy is the way to go. Just take a look what the duche send your frags in compare to Greg's, it's night and day and I am not talking about the restaurant either, Leaky bags with couple of pieces of foam, what a joke.

I honestly thought he would get a bit better since this is like a redemption for him on this forum but I guess Brad is right again. Once a duchebag always a duche.

I was contemplating on some lps and acans but never again.

Sorry for those who got ripped off, I know how you feel. I hope everyone paid with visa or PayPal that way you are 100% protected. Contact Burc right away and get your money back.

RuGlu6 05-09-2012 08:36 AM

Good thing that i Did Not participate in this group order.
Sorry to hear about people being ripped off.

kobelka 05-09-2012 12:33 PM

Anyone else have any sps frag pics that they picked up on this order?

Rogue951 05-09-2012 01:40 PM

I think I had the most SPS... everyone else did LPS/zoa/acans/shrooms

Snaz 05-09-2012 03:03 PM

Hi Guys. Please take a deep breath and lets work with Burc to make everyone happy.

Those that DID NOT PARTICIPATE in this buy please do not comment here, this thread details this buy and this buy only. If you want to create a new thread with your thoughts about fragalot then please do so. I need this thread to stay focused about this buy. Please respect that.

Burc cannot defend himself here as he is not a sponsor. Burc has emailed me and I will repost it and then THOSE THAT PARTICIPATED can contact Burc or discuss here. I have not talked with Anthony so I do not know if he wants to be invloved with returns etc. Frankly I would not. These sales are ultimately between Burc and the buyer our involvement was to coordinate the buy into one order which we have done. Anyway here is Burc's email"

"Mistake can happen. But i am not ignoring anyone, i can forward you emails from the people and my responses to them. I just dont think i deserve to be attacked like this from same people all the time.

I will ask a favor from you guys, if you have space and if you would like to do, I will refund the payment if anyone in your group feel ripped off. Once they return the frags back to you.

Please let me know about this.

Thank you very much."

SeaHorse_Fanatic 05-09-2012 03:30 PM

For those who mentioned something to me about their orders, I had already emailed Burc last night and he was cool with refunding or replacing the missing or DOA frags. He has been trying his best to make things right. If you bring me back the frags, I will make arrangements for those in the group buy.

Anthony

burgerchow 05-09-2012 03:31 PM

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http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/a...w/fragalot.jpg

this is what I received. I ordered double the standard size frags, so my $100 order became $200. Frags were supposed to be 2" or double the heads.

A little disappointed. Have never bought frags before and never order over the internet . Oh well.. shiiit happens..

Coasting 05-09-2012 03:31 PM

Burc seem to want to make it right regardless of what went wrong.

I do not feel I was ripped off as the value of what I got was still what I paid for and they were my back ups. Just dissapointed because I have been waiting months for the perfect torch and I didn't get that purple tip. He has told me he will hold a purple tip aside for me and send it as his apology with the next order.

Coasting 05-09-2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgerchow (Post 715047)
http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/a...w/fragalot.jpg

this is what I received. I ordered double the standard size frags, so my $100 order became $200. Frags were supposed to be 2" or double the heads.

A little disappointed. Have never bought frags before and never order over the internet . Oh well.. shiiit happens..

Wow some of those are huge! Based on what I got and what others got, some of those do look double, or bigger. I should have though of that! Yeah some do look small but maybe they were even smaller as singles?

BitShifter 05-09-2012 03:38 PM

Just want to chime in that my order was all there and healthy. Good sizes for the price.

The last time I ordered acans through fragalot, it just took a bit of time for them to colour up. They went from pretty drab to matching the pictures pretty quickly.

EDIT: Ya, Burgerchow, those are some pretty big frags....

burgerchow 05-09-2012 03:39 PM

yeah, some of them are pretty big. Biggest disappointment was the dragon soul favia. I wanted a big piece, so doubled the size, but I think it's the smallest one on a plug. lol

Coasting 05-09-2012 03:51 PM

I haven't even bothered to get out of bed yet to check the coral (and the new fish so nevermind that)
But I do intend to order more from Burc.

Anthony, Keith, what is happening?
I understand if you 2 dont want involvement in dealing with returns or another order.

Will we wait a little and they place another order? Smaller of coarse but at least to meet that 300 minimum. Then replacements can be sent with the order?

Snaz 05-09-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coasting (Post 715063)
I haven't even bothered to get out of bed yet to check the coral (and the new fish so nevermind that)
But I do intend to order more from Burc.

Anthony, Keith, what is happening?
I understand if you 2 dont want involvement in dealing with returns or another order.

Will we wait a little and they place another order? Smaller of coarse but at least to meet that 300 minimum. Then replacements can be sent with the order?

Let the detritus settle and give evevyone a chance to re-evaluate their buys. The orders that do require replacement or credit are ultimately between the buyer and Burc but I think if we coordinate it will be cheaper for everyone, smaller shipping fees.

I am very happy with my order and I am sorry for those who are not. Let's discuss here how we want to proceed. Thank you for keeping it civil.
Keith.

Coasting 05-09-2012 04:21 PM

I think if we wait a month or so, place another smaller order between those that want to re-order (still meet the 300$ mark), Burc can send the missing/replacement frags along with those. It will give enough time for new frags to appear on his website, and for our wallets to recover.

I would be more then happy to help with the next order.

Kryos 05-09-2012 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgerchow (Post 715053)
yeah, some of them are pretty big. Biggest disappointment was the dragon soul favia. I wanted a big piece, so doubled the size, but I think it's the smallest one on a plug. lol

Go read the Dragon Soul Favia description on the site again, it says $20 for 1 HEAD. You got three, so there should be no complaints on that one.

Edit* - I'm not disatisfied with what I got, since I knew some would be a hit or miss (not matching the picture exactly, that's why I prefer to see them in person or at the very least a non-shopped photo of the Actual specimen so I'll probably won't join the next GB unless there's something I really want), tho like some of you said, they may color up later on to match the picture

Kudos to Burc, Keith and Anthony for setting this up.

Paigee 05-09-2012 05:08 PM

I am also quite happy with my order. Would order from him again, but need to wait till my 20L is ready to rumble! The 10 is looking rather stuffed :D

It sounds like burc is very sincere in his efforts to make things right. And mistakes do happen, especially when organizing $1300 worth of corals. I can sympathize with him there.

Can't wait to see my corals today! One of my acans had some serious feeders out last night, the other one wasn't so enthusiastic though.

Flash 05-09-2012 05:12 PM

Snaz!


My hulks look the same! they color up really nice!!

ScubaSteve 05-09-2012 05:27 PM

No dissatisfaction on this end here. Sure one of the pieces didn't make it and one was mixed up but really, all the pieces are nice and will colour up. Even the ones I didn't order. I got an SPS frag that I didn't order on one of the last orders I did. It was brown when I got it but has since turned into one of the most stunning frags in my tank!

tripsandfalls 05-09-2012 05:47 PM

In general, I'm pretty happy with my order. 10 bucks a frag doesn't buy you much at any LFS here in the GVA (but there are lots of generous reefers in this community with real nice pieces that will share nice large frags for that price) in my experience and you certainly aren't going to find colorful acans like the ones Burc stocks.

My acans were still a little deflated yesterday after I put them in and headed back to work, but with lights off last night they all had lots of feeder tentacles extended and they all looked inflated, so hopefully I can make it home today before lights off to get a good look at 'em. They all had a decent amount of heads, I thought.

My boiling red zoas frag was a little on the meagre side, and hadn't opened yet so tough for me to comment on quality, but the quantity was well compensated for with a very generous watermelon zoa frag. For 10 bucks, this frag was huge. Burc must have an excess of the watermelon zoas kicking around. :)

Pics to come.

Ginu 05-09-2012 05:48 PM

I got my order from Anthony late last night and after acclimating I have to say I'm pretty impressed with what I got so no complains.

The frogspawn looked awesome and opened up nicely and super fast (I'm assuming today it will be even bigger)

Birds-nest was looks awesome as well and best birds I've gotten so far. It was open within 20 mins and kept on getting bigger.

Favia was nice looking and very happy with the size

Ric looks nice, however it needs to color up more. Time will fix this without a doubt.

The paly's and zoa's on the other hand were pretty ****ed off and didn't open last night, however I expect them to be happy today and open right up. I will update later perhaps with pics as well. Frag sizes were more than decent for the price.


Thanks Anthony, Keith and Burk.

PS: Anthony's main tank is super nice

burgerchow 05-09-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kryos (Post 715073)
Go read the Dragon Soul Favia description on the site again, it says $20 for 1 HEAD. You got three, so there should be no complaints on that one.

Edit* - I'm not disatisfied with what I got, since I knew some would be a hit or miss (not matching the picture exactly, that's why I prefer to see them in person or at the very least a non-shopped photo of the Actual specimen so I'll probably won't join the next GB unless there's something I really want), tho like some of you said, they may color up later on to match the picture

Kudos to Burc, Keith and Anthony for setting this up.

I'm not really complaining, just thought the dragon souls would be a little bigger.like I said, I've never bought frags before online and I guess my expectations were a little higher. Its my fault. Next time I will know betterm

Aquaria 05-09-2012 06:40 PM

Overall im very happy don't get me wrong I will order again as I realize it was a 1300 order over 100 frags mistakes are bound to happen what matters is he fixes his mistakes. I'm not ready to make a complaint yet was going to wait a day to see how my other Ric colors up but as of last night I was pretty sure he sent the wrong Ric. Other then that i got what I was supposed to get and an extra head on each acan no less

Aquaria 05-09-2012 06:43 PM

Ginu can u post a pic of ur multicolor Ric #1 for comparison purpose

Bblinks 05-09-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaz (Post 708964)
So interested in a Fragalot group buy and live in the lower mainland?

Steps as I see it:
1. Choosing a host. Someone with tank space or a usable quarantine tank able to host the purchases until the buyers have a chance to pickup their frags. I would hope everyone could pickup their frags within five days of them landing at our host. Host would need to be central and preferably south of the Fraser. Preferably host is a canreef regular so we can all feel good about trusting him/her with our purchases

2. Payment. I am thinking PayPal has some group options we can take advantage of. Should be easy. Payment coordinator does not have to be the frag host but it might make things easier.

3. Communicating with Fragalot. I remember one group buy where communication was poor and timing was unlucky because the seller had some serious personal issues at the time. This caused some aggravation and stress all around and I am hoping to avoid that. I am hoping Burc or whoever coordinates our order will post here and keep us all in the loop.

DO NOT MAKE FRAGALOT PURCHASES AND SAY TO THE SELLER THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE CANREEF GROUP BUY AT THIS TIME. I think this was the root of some of the confusion on that other group buy. If you want something from Fragalot NOW then go ahead and make the purchase and ship to yourself.

Once we sort out the details of the group buy we will communicate as a team to the seller and life will be good. If you do not understand this last point speak up now.

Discuss please.

http://www.fragalot.ca/


My apologies snaz, I am glad everything is getting sorted out! I am off this thread.


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