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FWC 03-11-2012 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janalta (Post 692359)
It looks to me like your filefish has a bacterial infection....presumably the same one your dead female brought in.
I assume you don't have an isolation/QT tank for him?

Your tank is still cycling and besides all of the imbalances in ammonia, nitrates, phosphates, etc....there just aren't enough beneficial bacteria and fauna in your tank yet to sustain the critters you've got in there.

I wouldn't do a full 50% water change right now...your fish are too stressed already. Try 25% tomorrow, then give it some time before you change more...testing every day.
PH is the least of your worries right now...I wouldn't worry about doing anything about that until you get your tank stabilized.

I dont have a Q/T at the time ,however if its critical I could whip one up.

Much water testing is in order. A water change as well. How large of one ,I am not sure ,given contradicting information.

daniella3d 03-11-2012 02:35 PM

first of all to neutralize ammonia which is burning your fish gills and mucus, you could add some Seachem Prime until the bacterias population resume to a decent level.

Good thing your PH is not that high because the higher the PH and the more toxic ammonia is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FWC (Post 692366)
I dont have a Q/T at the time ,however if its critical I could whip one up.

Much water testing is in order. A water change as well. How large of one ,I am not sure ,given contradicting information.


janalta 03-11-2012 02:59 PM

Just whipping up a QT tank now won't do any good....just like any tank, a QT has to have time to cycle and stabilize before putting fish into it. ( besides which, all of your fish and your tank have already been exposed to whatever you introduced )
I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water. Make sure you are running carbon and some sort of Phos ban...as Danielle said, add Prime to your water.
leave your tank for 24-48 hours and teast your parameters again.
If things are still out of wack...repeat the water change.

Check with your LFS to see if they have a reef safe antibacterial product.

Set up a proper QT before purchasing anything else...and let it cycle properly

reefwars 03-11-2012 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janalta (Post 692407)
Just whipping up a QT tank now won't do any good....just like any tank, a QT has to have time to cycle and stabilize before putting fish into it. ( besides which, all of your fish and your tank have already been exposed to whatever you introduced )
I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water. Make sure you are running carbon and some sort of Phos ban...as Danielle said, add Prime to your water.
leave your tank for 24-48 hours and teast your parameters again.
If things are still out of wack...repeat the water change.

Check with your LFS to see if they have a reef safe antibacterial product.

Set up a proper QT before purchasing anything else...and let it cycle properly


+1 agreed completely:)

Cade 03-11-2012 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janalta (Post 692407)
Just whipping up a QT tank now won't do any good....just like any tank, a QT has to have time to cycle and stabilize before putting fish into it. ( besides which, all of your fish and your tank have already been exposed to whatever you introduced )
I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water. Make sure you are running carbon and some sort of Phos ban...as Danielle said, add Prime to your water.
leave your tank for 24-48 hours and teast your parameters again.
If things are still out of wack...repeat the water change.

Check with your LFS to see if they have a reef safe antibacterial product.

Set up a proper QT before purchasing anything else...and let it cycle properly


+2 Good Luck with everything.

FWC 03-11-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janalta (Post 692407)
I don't see any conflicting advice on water changes?
Start with changing approx 25% of your water.

When reef wars said a large water change ,I was thinking along the lines of a 50% water change :wink:


Other then that ,shall do


Also I have some Kanaplex ,will that be alright for the anti-bacterial ??

janalta 03-11-2012 05:30 PM

Yes...I believe kanaplex is reef safe....but make sure first !
I know it is safe for marine tanks...but you'll have to double check on it's effects on corals and inverts.

FWC 03-11-2012 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janalta (Post 692440)
Yes...I believe kanaplex is reef safe....but make sure first !
I know it is safe for marine tanks...but you'll have to double check on it's effects on corals and inverts.

Ya ,I checked the seachem site and they said that it should be safe for a reef...

Also I'm assuming it should go like this ??

Water Change
Add a little extra prime
Add my phos ban of choice

and test the water at a later point.



Also I've been thinking of adding an airstone as all the fish are beathing a bit heavy today ,would the be fesable ??

janalta 03-11-2012 06:00 PM

Don't add more Prime than the recommended dose. Just add it to the new water you mix up before the water change.

What kind of airation do you have in the tank now? Is there a lot of water flow ( powerheads) ?
If not...a lack of O2 and low gas exchange could be part of the problem.
An airstone won't hurt....but you will need a more permanent solution...such as additional powerheads if this is the case

FWC 03-11-2012 06:17 PM

I'm running a fluval 305 and a korilia 425.

And now an airstone as well.


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