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Samw 05-25-2011 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 612897)
Does this make them more likely to win or less likely? Statistically speaking it would be less. ;)

Statistically, as winner of the President cup, they are more likely to win than any other seed (if the statistics below are accurate).

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2011/0...rophy-curse-2/

"Since 93/94, the President Cup winner won more cups than any other seed. They lost less in Round one than any other seed. They lost less in Round 2 than any other seed. They went to at least the 3rd round more than any other seed (11 times)."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...act-or-fiction

"In the 27 seasons starting with 1981-82, of the teams that led the NHL in points during the regular season:
12 have gone all the way to the Stanley Cup finals (45 percent).
Three-quarters of those teams have won the cup (9 of 12)
19 have made it to at least the Conference finals (70 percent)
Only four have been eliminated in the first round (15 percent)
Conclusion: There is no Presidents' Trophy curse. If history is any guide, the team that leads the NHL in regular season points is four to five times more likely than any other team in the playoffs to make it into the Stanley Cup finals, and seven to eight times more likely to win the Cup."

DAVE 05-25-2011 11:33 AM

What a disappointment last night. SJ got the worst bounces possible.

Canucks will loose the finals in 5.

sphelps 05-25-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Samw (Post 615363)
Statistically, as winner of the President cup, they are more likely to win than any other seed (if the statistics below are accurate).

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2011/0...rophy-curse-2/

"Since 93/94, the President Cup winner won more cups than any other seed. They lost less in Round one than any other seed. They lost less in Round 2 than any other seed. They went to at least the 3rd round more than any other seed (11 times)."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3...act-or-fiction

"In the 27 seasons starting with 1981-82, of the teams that led the NHL in points during the regular season:
12 have gone all the way to the Stanley Cup finals (45 percent).
Three-quarters of those teams have won the cup (9 of 12)
19 have made it to at least the Conference finals (70 percent)
Only four have been eliminated in the first round (15 percent)
Conclusion: There is no Presidents' Trophy curse. If history is any guide, the team that leads the NHL in regular season points is four to five times more likely than any other team in the playoffs to make it into the Stanley Cup finals, and seven to eight times more likely to win the Cup."

I think you missed my point. While those are very nice stats but my point was concluding a win based on Olympic games location as a result of previous coincidences is like concluding the 4th coin will land on heads as a result of 3 previous coins landing on heads. I would agree there is no presidents curse as the top team in the league should go far, pretty simple. In addition I don't buy into other curses and so called streaks which seem to be ever so popular in the sports world these days.

MKLKT 05-25-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrologist (Post 615364)
What a disappointment last night. SJ got the worst bounces possible.

Canucks will loose the finals in 5.

Guess the fortuitous bounce that led to SJ's 2nd goal wasn't anything... They had 4 prior games to be better. Sorry.

gobytron 05-25-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrologist (Post 615364)
What a disappointment last night. SJ got the worst bounces possible.

Canucks will loose the finals in 5.

The worst bounes off of lous pads?

Do comments like this honestly make you feel any better at all?

I read that what you dont see in the picture of the shark eating the hockey stick on san jose's logo is that the shark actually chokes hard on that stick after the fact.

DAVE 05-25-2011 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by gobytron (Post 615375)
The worst bounes off of lous pads?

Do comments like this honestly make you feel any better at all?

I read that what you dont see in the picture of the shark eating the hockey stick on san jose's logo is that the shark actually chokes hard on that stick after the fact.

I am not a SJ fan, however commenting on choking from a Canucks fan is hilarious.

Keep them coming :)

parkinsn 05-25-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrologist (Post 615364)
What a disappointment last night. SJ got the worst bounces possible.

Canucks will loose the finals in 5.

I agree with both comments.

I now hate Bieksa more than ever.

tony_3a 05-25-2011 04:09 PM

People talk so stupid when they have such little to use against them.
 
I love all the people talking about Canucks getting the bounces, Oh and like sharks first goal was not a lucky bounce? The guys saying they are chokers, I could be wrong but they did just win the last two series in under 7, Its always funny to see the people from alberta bitching, well I dont blame them all they have to cheer for is edmonton and calgary, I would be pretty bitter too.

I guess all I am really saying, is shut up, go golfing with Iginla and Hall, and just sit back and watch the canucks win the cup, something neither of your teams are going to do for a very very long time.

And one last thing, you guys are going to bitch about luo, REALLY after that game last night lol, granted one bad goal here and there, but he was a major reason we won this series.

sphelps 05-25-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tony_3a (Post 615409)
I guess all I am really saying, is shut up, go golfing with Iginla and Hall, and just sit back and watch the canucks win the cup, something neither of your teams are going to do for a very very long time.

Calgary was pretty close not too long ago. We'll see how they do but I'm going to make you eat these words if/when they loose :wink:

tony_3a 05-25-2011 04:19 PM

Missed the people from ontario too.
 
I forgot to mention the fact that not only would people from alberta be better, but people from ontario do not have much to boast about either, ottawa really, I dont even have to say anything about them, then there is toronto, plays just good enough at the end of the year to keep the fools coming back.

Once again, just be quiet and watch them take it home.

Ps I said earlier that edmonton has nothing to be happy about, but look on the bright side, you did get the #1 pick in the draft :)


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