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Madreefer 03-09-2011 02:43 AM

Give it a rest already. Take this to a PM. It's quite obvious that people are getting annoyed.

globaldesigns 03-09-2011 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 597106)
Give it a rest already. Take this to a PM. It's quite obvious that people are getting annoyed.

+1, I HATE BULLIES!

ensquire 03-09-2011 07:37 AM

Exactly

tony_3a 03-09-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by globaldesigns (Post 595944)
Well Daniella3d, good for you... In my case I have only ever lost one fish to ICH, a Powder Blue, and that was almost 3 years ago, when my tank was new. So in saying that, I am quit successful with my fish, without quarantining or hypo. So explain why that is, I don't quarantine anything. As you state it, I should be having lots of problems then.... HMMMMMM..... As you stated also holds true for me "no ich. None, niet. Never any outbreak, nothing"

I guess what I am saying is what you say isn't the Godly truth and if you don't do it your way, its wrong.... Cuz that isn't the case. Many ways for many people I guess.

To the thread creator and others seeking knowledge, just take all advice in stride... Non of us can claim to be experts, so please just use your common sense. If you choose to QT, go for it, if not then that is fine also.


I just recently set up a qt tank for a emperor angel that got the crap beat out of it, I had to quickly set up the tank or the fish would die(didnt move out of the top left corner of the tank for over 24 hours with its back bent and laboured breathing), Anyways after one day of in the qt tank, it was eating very well, and then 3 days ago I noticed very very bad ich, all over the fish probably over 100 spots, and that night I lowered the salinity to 1.15 or so, and as of today, i cannot see a single spot on the fish. Also i know it is advised not too, but i have a couple pieces of lr in there from my sump, and a very very very thin sand bad. IMO the fish seems that the fish would feel more comfortable.

But that is just my thoughts, very likely could be wrong.

Im assuming it got the ich because i used the water from the tank and couldnt wait for the tank to cycle with new water and such.

abcha0s 03-09-2011 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by tony_3a (Post 597297)
I just recently set up a qt tank for a emperor angel that got the crap beat out of it, I had to quickly set up the tank or the fish would die(didnt move out of the top left corner of the tank for over 24 hours with its back bent and laboured breathing), Anyways after one day of in the qt tank, it was eating very well, and then 3 days ago I noticed very very bad ich, all over the fish probably over 100 spots, and that night I lowered the salinity to 1.15 or so, and as of today, i cannot see a single spot on the fish. Also i know it is advised not too, but i have a couple pieces of lr in there from my sump, and a very very very thin sand bad. IMO the fish seems that the fish would feel more comfortable.

But that is just my thoughts, very likely could be wrong.

Im assuming it got the ich because i used the water from the tank and couldnt wait for the tank to cycle with new water and such.

I'm sure that you mean 1.015 - this might not kill the Ich. You have to take it down to 1.009. You need a refractometer to do this safetly.

If you are not medicating then live rock and sand in the qt tank is a good thing. No worries there.

Just make sure you lower and then raise your salinity slowly. Rapid jumps are bad. Raising to quickly is much riskier then lowering to quickly.

Good luck.

tony_3a 03-09-2011 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by abcha0s (Post 597301)
I'm sure that you mean 1.015 - this might not kill the Ich. You have to take it down to 1.009. You need a refractometer to do this safetly.

If you are not medicating then live rock and sand in the qt tank is a good thing. No worries there.

Just make sure you lower and then raise your salinity slowly. Rapid jumps are bad. Raising to quickly is much riskier then lowering to quickly.

Good luck.



sorry, its right around 1.011, I saw in a couple different places that going below 1.010 could hurt the fish? Is this not true?

Thanks for the input!
Tony

lastlight 03-10-2011 01:50 AM

If you just noticed the ich and then the spots are gone I believe the parasite has simply just gone into it's next phase: hatched and burrowed into the fish. I'm not really too smart with disease but I think that's close.

tony_3a 03-10-2011 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 597355)
If you just noticed the ich and then the spots are gone I believe the parasite has simply just gone into it's next phase: hatched and burrowed into the fish. I'm not really too smart with disease but I think that's close.

Ive had ich a couple times, and from what ive noticed even when it is around for a couple days you always see some spots on it, and now they are completely gone.

reefwars 03-10-2011 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tony_3a (Post 597398)
Ive had ich a couple times, and from what ive noticed even when it is around for a couple days you always see some spots on it, and now they are completely gone.


even if they are completely gone off the fish if the fish has been in your display then ich is already there and can likely show again when conditions arent right or stress is high.

hyposalinity is all fine and dandy but if you havent done it to each single fish before entering your display then its not "completely gone" .

healthy system = healthy fish ;)

tony_3a 03-10-2011 09:20 PM

I know it is not ever completely gone, but most of the time the fish are not stressed, i just got a new fish that one of them didnt agree with so the beat up fish got stressed out and it came back. When i said its completely gone i meant in the qt tank, i know it will be in the display tank until i can get rid of it one way or another.



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Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 597407)
even if they are completely gone off the fish if the fish has been in your display then ich is already there and can likely show again when conditions arent right or stress is high.

hyposalinity is all fine and dandy but if you havent done it to each single fish before entering your display then its not "completely gone" .

healthy system = healthy fish ;)



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