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fishoholic 04-23-2009 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by my2rotties (Post 413708)
This is why I mentioned antibiotics... I just didn't know what you do for that.

Ya that's why I figured you said that.

After the copper treatment is done does anyone know what heals open wounds? I know melafix works for wounds on FW fish just can't remember if it works for SW or not.

Sohal looks awful however he is eating and swimming around lots. King is slowing down, not quite on his side but almost and she hasn't eaten anything yesterday or today :sad:

It's also been a big PITA trying to keep ammonia in check, we're doing 25% to 50% W/C's everyday.

marie 04-23-2009 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by fishoholic (Post 413767)
Ya that's why I figured you said that.

After the copper treatment is done does anyone know what heals open wounds? I know melafix works for wounds on FW fish just can't remember if it works for SW or not.

Sohal looks awful however he is eating and swimming around lots. King is slowing down, not quite on his side but almost and she hasn't eaten anything yesterday or today :sad:

It's also been a big PITA trying to keep ammonia in check, we're doing 25% to 50% W/C's everyday.

One of the side affects of copper is depressed appetite, I would feed sparingly until copper treatment is over...it will help with the ammonia levels as well

*edit* A well fed fish should last 10 days without eating with no problems but I would feed a good quality flake food (flakes soak up things up better and faster)that has been soaked in garlic juice and vitamins for the fish who are still eating

GreenSpottedPuffer 04-23-2009 04:05 AM

I know I said it a bunch of times already last week in the PM's but again, I am so sorry about your losses :sad:

Velvet has to be caught so fast and so often it's too late by the time you figure it out.

fishoholic 04-23-2009 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 413768)
One of the side affects of copper is depressed appetite, I would feed sparingly until copper treatment is over...it will help with the ammonia levels as well

*edit* A well fed fish should last 10 days without eating with no problems but I would feed a good quality flake food (flakes soak up things up better and faster)that has been soaked in garlic juice and vitamins for the fish who are still eating

None of my fish have ever been offered flake not sure if they would eat it or not. We've been feeding pellets and mysis very sparingly (mysis soaked in garlic & selcon) and we try to scoop up any uneaten food 10-15 minutes after feeding. I was paranoid that if they stopped eating it was a signal that they were getting weaker and that the end was near. Good to know how long they can live for without eating. I'd say my king was well fed, I'd bet she's fatter then Doofus :wink:

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 413771)
I know I said it a bunch of times already last week in the PM's but again, I am so sorry about your losses :sad:

Velvet has to be caught so fast and so often it's too late by the time you figure it out.

Thank-you again GSP for the pm's and kind words.

Unfortunately I do think you are right. I really believe that by the time we figured out what was really wrong with our fish, it was to late to save most of them.

Atomikk 04-23-2009 11:46 AM

So all of your fish are quarantined and treated with copper at this point? Or only some?

my2rotties 04-23-2009 02:43 PM

ALL of her fish are in the QT tank being treated.

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Originally Posted by Atomikk (Post 413810)
So all of your fish are quarantined and treated with copper at this point? Or only some?


fishoholic 04-23-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Atomikk (Post 413810)
So all of your fish are quarantined and treated with copper at this point? Or only some?

Yes all of my fish are in QT being treated with copper save for one sneaky red corris wrasse who is being a PITA to catch from the FOWLR display tank. Almost caught him last night but he wiggled his way out of the net. The problem is he dives deep into the sand and it's very hard to find him once he's out of sight, we have stirred up the whole sand bed in our efforts to catch him but after awhile it gets to cloudly to see anything and we have to stop. Pretty much all the live rock has been taken out this tank and we're hopeful that tonight when he's out and about we should be able to get him.

As soon as we catch him he will be going into the QT tank, and we will be leaving the display tanks fish free for at least 6 weeks in order to kill off the disease in the tanks.

my2rotties 04-23-2009 04:50 PM

What would a person do to a new fish prior to putting them into a QT tank to perhaps take preventative measures on a fish that might be incubating this disease? Does a person put some copper in the fish bag the fish came home in for a certain amount of time to kill off any disease?

Any new fish I have brought home get prazipro and cupamine put into the fish bag and they are left in it for an hour. I do pour the fish and contents of the bag into a pail and cover it with a towel while I do this as well. Then I add and subtract my tank water by replacing one cup of bag water with tank water (bag water goes down the sink), and I keep doing this for about 40 minutes. I then net the fish and put it into my holding tank. I know one LFS that does a fresh water dip on all new fihs to kill everything but it freaks me out to do this. So far, since I have taken the measures I have done, I have not had a single problem with any disease of any kind. However, perhaps this has just been good luck, so any insight on how else people do things would be appreciated.

my2rotties 04-23-2009 04:51 PM

From your post I feel that everyone else is still alive so far? I am sure hoping so!!! It seems promising.

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Originally Posted by fishoholic (Post 413885)
Yes all of my fish are in QT being treated with copper save for one sneaky red corris wrasse who is being a PITA to catch from the FOWLR display tank. Almost caught him last night but he wiggled his way out of the net. The problem is he dives deep into the sand and it's very hard to find him once he's out of sight, we have stirred up the whole sand bed in our efforts to catch him but after awhile it gets to cloudly to see anything and we have to stop. Pretty much all the live rock has been taken out this tank and we're hopeful that tonight when he's out and about we should be able to get him.

As soon as we catch him he will be going into the QT tank, and we will be leaving the display tanks fish free for at least 6 weeks in order to kill off the disease in the tanks.


fishoholic 04-24-2009 04:12 AM

WOOOOHOOO (all and all considering) today is the first day in a week that I didn't wake up to dead fish and I didn't come home to dead fish :mrgreen: My king was lethargic and not really moving around or eating the past 2 days and today she is swimming around a bit and she ate a bit too. The rest of the fish seem to be ok too. Other then the Sohal tang. The Sohal is swimming around eating lots and acting semi normal but his face is awful, literally half of the skin on his face has fallen off :sad: Doesn't seem to be slowing him down, but it looks just awful.

Also we finally caught the red corris wrasse today and she is now in QT with everyone else, seems to be doing fine in there.


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