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midgetwaiter 01-01-2009 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 373029)
Retailers do not do anything as they really have no say in the whole thing. Unless there are stores that have employees going to the collection sites. I know of a few major US retailers that DO have this in place and have their own collectors in some areas but that is rare and I am not so sure it happens at all in Canada. I could be wrong though.

Nobody is keeping people at collection sites all the time, they might visit once a year.

I'm curious about what you consider a "major" retailer as well. Some of the places that people think of as big are nothing more than fax machines that send orders to large wholesalers. The wholesale outfit drop ships directly to the customer, the retail op never even sees your livestock.

GreenSpottedPuffer 01-01-2009 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by midgetwaiter (Post 373146)
Nobody is keeping people at collection sites all the time, they might visit once a year.

I'm curious about what you consider a "major" retailer as well. Some of the places that people think of as big are nothing more than fax machines that send orders to large wholesalers. The wholesale outfit drop ships directly to the customer, the retail op never even sees your livestock.

Uhhhh...how exactly have can you say "nobody"?

I was speaking of a specific retailer who I KNOW has at least one collector in the Solomon Islands that I know of (met) and I believe more. He is there year round. I also am pretty sure they have more than a fax machine :wink:

midgetwaiter 01-01-2009 01:54 AM

What's the name of the shop?


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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 373148)
Uhhhh...how exactly have can you say "nobody"?

I was speaking of a specific retailer who I KNOW has at least one collector in the Solomon Islands that I know of (met) and I believe more. He is there year round. I also am pretty sure they have more than a fax machine :wink:


Snaz 01-01-2009 03:24 AM

Wikipedia - Cyanide Fishing
 
Here is how Cyanide fishing works and it's impact for those who are interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanide_fishing

DBM 01-01-2009 10:05 PM

Naesco,

The Mandarins I used to buy were not caught with cyanide, they were speared. Next time your retailer gets a bunch shipped in have a closer look, might see a scar along the dorsal or caudal.

DBM 01-01-2009 10:06 PM

Greenspotted,

Don't you mean Vanuatu?

naesco 01-01-2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBM (Post 373348)
Naesco,

The Mandarins I used to buy were not caught with cyanide, they were speared. Next time your retailer gets a bunch shipped in have a closer look, might see a scar along the dorsal or caudal.

Yes I posted on this technique earlier. MAC taught it to the fisherman.
But, as we both know, the availability of MAC fish is very limited.

Reefers should gladly pay the additional cost for these mandarins.
Continue to get them in whenever possible.

GreenSpottedPuffer 01-01-2009 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBM (Post 373349)
Greenspotted,

Don't you mean Vanuatu?

Vanuatu? Are you talking about the collector I met?

If so, I met him in Singapore (where my father lives) at a local reef club. He had brought them some hand picked fishes, some of which my dad bought. Im talking some multi thousand dollar specimens, so he delivered them himself (Singapore is MADE of money ;) ). I talked to him for a while and learned he works for one of the largest retailers (mostly online but they have huge facilities on both the West and East coast US, so actually they are probably not "mostly" online) but lives in the South Pacific. He is actually employed by that US company though and if you look at their rare fish and the amazing specimens they get, it makes sense now. He said he had just come from the Solomon Islands collecting some very rare puffer color morphs that he had only ever seen maybe 7 ever in his life. He had one at the reef club that day along with the angels and whatnot he had imported.

So I guess I should have said he collects in the Solomon Islands at least seasonally but I don't know for sure if he lives there. He just said he works for a US retailer but lives year round in the South Pacific. My father has gotten almost all his fish through the guy now.

GreenSpottedPuffer 01-01-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by naesco (Post 373353)
Yes I posted on this technique earlier. MAC taught it to the fisherman.
But, as we both know, the availability of MAC fish is very limited.

Reefers should gladly pay the additional cost for these mandarins.
Continue to get them in whenever possible.

So there are no MAC wholesalers though here in Canada? What about the US?

I don't know much about it, but if I ever found a retailer/wholesaler who was buying/selling MAC fish, I would shop exclusively with them :)

chandigz 01-01-2009 10:45 PM

There is one MAC certified wholesaler in canada (right here in BC) but no certified retailers


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