Jason, since my troubles began over christmas I have been considering going with zeovit but before I started using rowaphos my phosphate levels according to elos have never been above .05, after running phosphate removers for the last 4 month my phosphate levels are still between .01 and .05. My nitrates have also never been detectable using a salifert test kit.
I know my nutrient levels are high because of the algae and hydroids in my system but would zeovit be that much more of a benefit for me considering the growth and health of my corals for the last year.

Unfortunately I think I might of narrowed my recent problems down to the new 35lb bottle of co2. When calcium demand dropped so low I turned off the reactor, the corals stopped stning and the demand picked up again, I turned the reactor back on and problems started all over. It took me 3 months of doing this before I realized it might be the co2 :rolleyes:


Oh and I think the purple acro in the pic I posted (it really is that colour to the naked eye, canadian :mrgreen:) is exactly the same coral as the purple one (seventh pic) that jason posted.

[quote=Canadian;318056]Hey, here's what I KNOW:
2) The people who posted pics of their SPS to show off how much color they have without ZEO cheated and photoshopped their pics - that's a fact!quote]
Perhaps you've been drinking too much of your user name.:razz:
I mentioned in my post the picture doesn't do justice.
Anyway my point was about coral genetics and although not previously stated recticulate evolution plays a role as is obvious in the pictures from Marie & Jason of their same A.valida/nana.

BTW---Jason your tank looks great! Thanks for posting.

Yes thanks for posting Jason, I still haven't ruled out using zeovit but first I think I'll see what using a better skimmer can do.

Oh and thank you Snappy for identifying the coral...not that I'll ever remember it in the future :redface:

Yup, it's supposed to be. My impression so far is that there are no pics, so I'm not sure I can justify spending the money.

The reason I'm interested is that yes, although I think I cna do the same without Zeo (my previous tanks have been not-too-bad), I would like to feed my fish a bit more than normal and I have used sand this time around. If I can add more and Zeovit helps me manage it better (since I cna't get my skimmer to actually work very well), then I'd be intersted in setting this up. I'm not talking about adding the supplements, just the base reactor with zeofood, zeostart, zeobak and media. Ok, maybe dose some K, but that's it.

Do we have any pics?? Anyone?

I'll take some pics tonight, I've been neglegent due to the fact that I still can't figure out how to take decent underwater pictures.

Regarding cost, it's really only the startup that hits your pocketbook :

Reactor (1.5L) ~$230
ZeoStart ~$30
ZeoFood ~$15
ZeoBac ~$15
Zeolites ~$15

.. So initially you are looking to spend around $300.00.

Once you get going it should average out to around $20 (as noted by Albert in a thread a ways back)

Thanks Jason, this is what I was looking for. I don't want to argue about whether it works or cures cancer, I want to see pics that will help me justify spending the money.

I don't really have any before or after pictures, sorry.

To be honest the water zapped itself into this amazing clarity I couldn't even imagine, so quickly, that it literally caught me off guard. Like, I turned on the reactor one night, thought "I should get some pictures to do a before and after.. ah, it's late, I'll do it tomorrow." But "tomorrow" was too late. I was sitting there looking at my tank wondering what was wrong with my lights because they were noticeably brighter. Like they were suddenly being overdriven or something. Then I noticed my carpet tank had the same effect going on (it's a refugium style or satellite style tank run on the same sump). I finally realized, it wasn't the lights, it was the water.

I can show you some pictures of the frags I've got but without a context of a before and after, they don't really have a lot meaning to the spirit of this thread.

To be honest, to me the colours are just a happy bonus. Colours come from having nice pieces and reasonably well managed water quality, so colours will come anyhow. But having pieces grow because they are feeding on the bacteria that reduced the PO4 and NO3 .. that has a certain appeal to me. I feed my fish generously and wish to continue to do so as I feel that they are healthier that way, and this allows me to do more so. I mean I'm not going overboard, but it gives me a comfort margin. I have a CBB, for example, who only eats mysis, and grocery store bought food clams (mussels, Manilla, oysters, etc.). If I don't feed him what he eats, he doesn't eat. (He's already cleaned the tank of aiptasia.) I don't want to see him go without food, so I feed him a little mysis every day. Running Zeo allows me to do this without my NO3 and PO4 getting away on me.

I guess I'm gonna need to get some corals to really test this out, eh??

The coral can always come later :) In some ways it seems better to start zeo on a new or understocked tank so you can get really agressive with the dosing from the start of zeo to snap things into order early on without the fear of hurting your coral - Bleaching/RTN

I have a pocy high up in the tank before I started zeo under MH but with the swtich to T5 and zeovit I had to drop it down to the bottom of the tank as it bleached in a day.. I've mood it back up now as the colour is starting to return.


For the recod I was much like you.. I just didn't think I could justify the expense but when I started seeing tanks with zeo and what they have done I decided to give it a shot. The changes I saw in clarity much like Tony were amazing, and instant change!

Which is the direction I'm going. I like to feed mysis at least once a day, and need a buffer...