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WarDog 06-03-2015 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 952469)
FWIW, I set up a QT after losing a bunch of fish. I lost more fish in QT than not, so now my tank is full of non quarantined fish, all happy and healthy.
I don't even have an opinion on it anymore, I think it's a good idea, but not for me.


Oh yeah... that's why I didn't bother with a QT.

Aquattro 06-03-2015 01:15 AM

I got lucky so far, and not pushing it. Fish list is complete, so fingers crossed nothing happens. If I lose another tank full, I'm probably done!!

F.H 06-03-2015 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 952469)
FWIW, I set up a QT after losing a bunch of fish. I lost more fish in QT than not, so now my tank is full of non quarantined fish, all happy and healthy.
I don't even have an opinion on it anymore, I think it's a good idea, but not for me.

FWIW, I lost all my fish, about 4 of them when I was new to saltwater about 3 years ago to ich, or a similar "white spot" disease, although I'm pretty sure it wasn't velvet.

Left my tank fallow for 3 months, vowed to QT everything wet that goes into my tank from then on.

I haven't lost a single fish since, and currently have 7 in my tank.

As with every other aspect of this hobby, you'll have stories on one end of the spectrum such as Aquattro's and then stories on the other end such as mine.

My experiences have convinced me that QT is the way to go, his have convinced him otherwise.

Good luck with moving forward, I know probably every single reefer on Canreef has lost some livestock one way or another. Right now is the perfect time to ask around, maybe do some research and figure out exactly which direction you would like to take.

Aquattro 06-03-2015 02:20 AM

Absolutely 2 views on QT. If anyone asks me, I recommend it, I just don't practice it myself anymore. Mostly out of frustration.

daplatapus 06-03-2015 05:32 AM

That totally sucks. Sorry to hear. I agree about all the views expressed with QT. I think it's a good idea in practice. I do a modified QT :)
Here's my rationalization, wrong or right or somewhere in between. My QT consists of a full tank change every 72 hours for two weeks. So a full cycle of the TTM. That, in theory should get rid of ich.
If anything else should show, I figure the stress of that should make it apparent and I can deal with it. If nothing shows in that two weeks, into the display it goes.
I've tried a full 6-8 weeks QT and I've not been able to do it. That's when I've killed fish. So far since I've done the TTM, I haven't lost a fish due to my negligence, and I actually have seen few sick fish. Prazipro has been able to take care of anything else so far.

But I know the TTM isn't easy if you don't have a fish room or somewhere you can set up an entire system...

Myka 06-03-2015 03:05 PM

Quarantine is all about risk factor. If you have several thousand dollars worth of fish in a large tank then it doesn't make sense to NOT quarantine. One little fish can wipe out all of them. If you have a small tank, and few fish, then maybe quarantine isn't as dire.

Aquattro 06-03-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Myka (Post 952556)
Quarantine is all about risk factor. If you have several thousand dollars worth of fish in a large tank then it doesn't make sense to NOT quarantine. One little fish can wipe out all of them. If you have a small tank, and few fish, then maybe quarantine isn't as dire.

Agreed. If I decided to add another fish now, I would risk losing that single fish in QT vs risking the tank populous overall.

WarDog 06-03-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myka (Post 952556)
Quarantine is all about risk factor. If you have several thousand dollars worth of fish in a large tank then it doesn't make sense to NOT quarantine. One little fish can wipe out all of them. If you have a small tank, and few fish, then maybe quarantine isn't as dire.

This sounds like a pretty good idea and is something I will seriously consider. The wife and I are starting to think about a new stocking list (no more tangs or rescue fish). The one remaining fish, male clown, appears not too bad and I'm starting to think he might have a chance. Guess I will try to catch him in the future and treat, if he survives. I'd really like to start the fallow period.

Bblinks 06-03-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 952563)
This sounds like a pretty good idea and is something I will seriously consider. The wife and I are starting to think about a new stocking list (no more tangs or rescue fish). The one remaining fish, male clown, appears not too bad and I'm starting to think he might have a chance. Guess I will try to catch him in the future and treat, if he survives. I'd really like to start the fallow period.

I think Myka nailed it on the head. Quarantine is important if you have an established tank with a lot to lose, not saying if you have only a few fishes that you don't have to worry. It all cost money. I think you can quarantine but just need to quarantine in the right tank, putting a larger fish in a 20 gallon quarantine is just not the best practice. Corals on the other hand can be quarantined in a 20 gallon tank with proper flow and lighting of course.

I do feel responsible for your loses and I think the only way to make it up to you is to set up that 120 for you. just tell me when and i'll be over...

WarDog 06-03-2015 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 952639)
I think Myka nailed it on the head. Quarantine is important if you have an established tank with a lot to lose, not saying if you have only a few fishes that you don't have to worry. It all cost money. I think you can quarantine but just need to quarantine in the right tank, putting a larger fish in a 20 gallon quarantine is just not the best practice. Corals on the other hand can be quarantined in a 20 gallon tank with proper flow and lighting of course.

I do feel responsible for your loses and I think the only way to make it up to you is to set up that 120 for you. just tell me when and i'll be over...

Lol, don't sweat it. We're still friends!


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