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lobsterboy 01-26-2010 07:15 AM

awesome input guys, that saved me an overflow,

lobsterboy 01-27-2010 07:33 AM

well, i am on the ro water as of tonight, i just made up a batch of water.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3095-1.jpg

its not done yet, as you can see.

Big thanks to Kevin at Red Coral for the RODI unit, I was on a break from work and he got everything together for me, even though he was busy, he replaced the filters on it, so all i had to do when i got home was hook it up to the tap. Customer service is really top notch.

I tested the tap water again, and it was 170. The water from the RO unit was 000

Sweet.

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3093-1.jpg

http://i496.photobucket.com/albums/r...IMG_3094-1.jpg

Ephraim 01-27-2010 12:57 PM

congrats on going RO!

shrimpchips 01-27-2010 05:41 PM

With RO (and less TDS and other junk) you may want to rethink/tone back your Zeo lest you completely strip the water bare or all nutrients.

JDigital 01-27-2010 06:04 PM

Welcome to da Club! :mrgreen:

albert_dao 01-27-2010 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimpchips (Post 486235)
With RO (and less TDS and other junk) you may want to rethink/tone back your Zeo lest you completely strip the water bare or all nutrients.

I don't agree with this...

shrimpchips 01-27-2010 07:34 PM

Why not?

albert_dao 01-27-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shrimpchips (Post 486292)
Why not?

Because I don't buy into "stripped water" anecdotes. If he is currently a successful Zeovit user, his water will already be "stripped" or whatever ambiguous state the armchair elite would like to call it. In recent memory, I can recall a similar accusation pointed towards high efficiency skimmers. As we all know, current skimmer technology succeeds previous incarnations by a long shot. The result? Better, cleaner tanks with healthier livestock.

The key here is to keep things as stable as possible. Reducing supplementation of carbon sources or media beds will have a larger negative impact on a stable system than simply switching to water that should have been used to begin with.

Let's put it this way; don't fix what isn't broken, and this isn't broken :D

shrimpchips 01-27-2010 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 486330)
Because I don't buy into "stripped water" anecdotes. If he is currently a successful Zeovit user, his water will already be "stripped" or whatever ambiguous state the armchair elite would like to call it. In recent memory, I can recall a similar accusation pointed towards high efficiency skimmers. As we all know, current skimmer technology succeeds previous incarnations by a long shot. The result? Better, cleaner tanks with healthier livestock.

The key here is to keep things as stable as possible. Reducing supplementation of carbon sources or media beds will have a larger negative impact on a stable system than simply switching to water that should have been used to begin with.

Let's put it this way; don't fix what isn't broken, and this isn't broken :D

That's the issue here - it's not just reducing the supplementation of organic carbon or whatever other zeovit additives that is going to have the negative impact, but the sudden change in overall nutrient availability. You're going from a nutrient rich (tap water) to a nutrient poor (RO/DI) state before bacterial/skimmer/nutrient export processing. Like any balanced equation, if you take one term out (in this the extra nutrients in the water) you're going to have a deviation from equillibrium.

And, I'm quite active. I don't even own an arm chair.

FlamesFan 01-27-2010 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 486265)
I don't agree with this...

I agree with albert on this. Zeo's job is to "strip" the water as you guys are calling it. The zeo products then introduct their own nutrients to the coral via dosing. If anything John should see better results with a cleaner starting point. (Zero TDS)


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