That makes zero sense. They shouldn't be inspecting portable equipment in the first place.
Also UL or ULc listed, among others, are fine in Canada. But again, portable equipment so why are they looking? If it's anything it'll be the fire inspector that will look for that.

I'm a jman sparky, and while not an inspector I know more than most of them. I hate having to do the inspectors job.

If you want me to have a peek at the report they gave you so you can rebut it just send it over to me

Jeff at goproelectrical.com

Hi Jeff,

Well, if that is true its great news!

I may take you up on that offer. He never gave me a report so I will contact the ESA for the report.

ESA no longer have jurisdiction over consumer goods its now done by health Canada.

The GHL ballasts only show CE.

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Look at all the other marks to the left then look at the link I sent

http://www.esasafe.com/electricalproducts/marks

I do see these markings on the GHL ballasts but I dont think its good enough.

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LED lighting is also test exempt. its in the amendment. the power supply is not thats why both ecotech and GHL use graded power supplies

Interesting.

I really need to compile this information for him so when he comes back we can get approved.

He seems to be very under educated in the regulations, for one just to say it all has to be CSA is B.S just there.

Issue is the info is tightly hidden on health canadas website, and e-safes it takes hours of digging to find it.

I put in a call to a field evaluator.

Apparently they can provide me with all the information needed to pass inspection and certify any equipment that is not certified.

Stay tuned! :mrgreen:

2-005 An application for inspection not required

(c) for the installation of wiring and associated equipment connected to the load
side of an approved class 2 power supply whose power output does not
exceed 100 V•A; and is operating at less than 42.4 V ac peak or dc; by an
employee or agent of the original equipment manufacturer or a worker in
accordance to his/her designation and if the wiring is:
(i) installed in an owner-occupied dwelling unit;
(ii) not connected to electrical equipment identified in Subrule 2-022 (3)(c)(i)
to (vi); and
(iii) not connected to electrical equipment forming part of an electrical
installation to which Section 68 and 32 of this Code applies;

No report? How long ago did he inspect? Did he mention the report or when he will get it to you? He has to put it in writing.
Phone him up and request the code violation on each failure as well.

His scope is the buildings hard wiring. Cut the cord end off and hardwire it in then he can look at it.

He's not even really allowed to look at anything that was existing before you moved in, just at the changes and additions you made.

He must be a new guy on a power trip. They are the worst.

He inspected our warehouse today.

This is all great information. I really appreciate it guys!

I just went thru this with local inspectors with a LED dance floor for my club. Those marks are a exactly the ones they need C RU & C RU US are Non Canadian/US certifiers with CSA approval. Plus I have to agree that your inspector is step out of his area even looking at your equipment.

+ 1

LED lights are exempt and from what I understand, CE is enough when the electrical unit has an external power supply.

Did you get a report from the inspector yet? Or any answers from him.

I got the report and nothing on there about unsafe equipment like he said.

I am guessing he reported us to Health Canada because its out of his jurisdiction.

I will just wait for them to contact me and deal with it later.

So you passed inspection then? Or did he fail you for other stuff?

All the electrical work passed but we have 30-days to get our lights approved and then we are off the hook.

Under electrical code or?

We got all the glass delivered for the fish wall on Friday. It's going to be a ton of work to build each one, thats for sure.

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We had some help from the crew @ Reef Wholesale to help us lift our 300g DD onto the 42" tall stand. Everything is framed up and ready for drywall!!!

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Well what choice did you really have if you asked miracles to build your store they would have told you a hundred thousand.

Xenon, next time get your electrical inspection after all the hard-wiring is done and before you setup any over tank lighting. Your electrical should have been done long before you started moving in tanks, over tank lighting, pumps, etc. There is a whack of equipment that isn't CSA Approved that is in common use in Canada. I haven't heard of anyone having insurance trouble when non-CSA equipment has caused fires like in situations where water drips into a power bar. CSA or not, it's likely to cause a fire if it doesn't trip a breaker in time (yay for GFCI).

I hope you're almost ready to sell some corals! You have a long way to go to get in the black - that's a lot of frags! :lol:

wow cant wait to see the end results
all that glass must have been a pretty penny wait they don't have pennies anymore lol
looking good

I totally agree.

To be honest, I knew nothing about electrical code. I have learned a ton during this entire process. :biggrin:

Hehe, you need a buddy that knows a buddy. :p

1st Visit..... 1st Impressions.....
 

I was VERY fortunate to receive a personal invitation from Dan and Isabelle (Isobel? - apologies for the spelling ;)) of Canada Corals to visit their store yesterday evening. Along with a few other invited guests; we were privileged to enjoy an informal tour and "meet & greet".

I would like to start off by Thanking our gracious hosts for allowing us this opportunity and for taking time out of their exceptionally busy schedules. :cool: They took the time to share their vision with us and answered all our questions.

I'm uncertain of where I should start in writing this "review" and sharing my experiences with fellow hobbyists and members of this forum. I guess the word that comes to mind if I had to choose one; would be "Impressive". "Wow" comes a close second. Perhaps more crudely put: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig4jbcU9db0 ;)

I've travelled far and wide for the passion of this hobby. I've been to retail and wholesale stores all over North America, Europe, and Asia. I've often expressed to follow hobbyists that we are VERY fortunate in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA). The market here is exceptionally competitive and filled with seasoned, knowledgeable consumers and retailers. Each LFS differentiates itself by specializing in something. Hobbyists will go to a certain LFS for one thing, while they will go to another LFS for something else. Each LFS is "known" for something; whether it be selection, price, service....and if we're fortunate enough (sad state of affairs in any business); all of the above.

Only time will tell what Canada Corals will be "known" for.....but what I will say is this: This LFS impresses me. Think "deer in headlights" stunned. From the layout of the front entrance, to the design of their coral vats, to their quarantine system, to their anticipated bagging/shipping station.....everything seems to be very well thought out. It's not just the obvious fact that capital outlay for this venture was huge; but it is also combined with how logically things were designed. Everything has what seems a logical purpose in design. Hindsight is always 20-20 and I'm sure they would re-do some things if they could...but to the layman (me) the fit and finish was great.

The environment is clean but not sterile. It's inviting and encourages viewing of prospective purchases. It encourages customers to be "interactive"; to ask questions, to 'play' with the lighting of the coral vats so corals can be viewed under different lighting conditions. The lighting, wiring, dosing equipment, auto top-off, sumps are all organized and clean.

As for Dry goods (remember - the store hasn't even opened yet); there is an impressive compliment of high(er) end brands such as Tunze, AI, GHL, Fauna Marin. Not just one or two of an item.....but multiple quantities of each item. They will be stocked. ;) They are still in the process of deciding and firming up what brands and quantities they will carry. Don't worry - I'm certain they will be carrying quality brands at different price points as well.

One of the most impressive things in their adventure is that A LOT of what you see has been done/made by them. The aquariums, coral vats, stands, renovations were done mainly on their own.

On a final note - it should be mentioned that I believe Dan and Isabelle will add a youthful spin to the "Reefing" LFS scene in the GTA. They seem very approachable and friendly. Modest and knowledgeable. I can only think of 1 or 2 that currently have that "youthful" edge or spark. I wish them well on this adventure and I'm sure they will help add and change the retail landscape in a positive way for hobbyists. Cheers.

Please find enclosed some 1st hand accounts/pictures taken yesterday evening. I'm sure they will be adding more pictures to this build thread. It will be very interesting to compare time lapsed photos.

P.S. - As always; my disclaimer. I don't work for Canada Corals. No special consideration was made for this review/post.

P.P.S. - There is currently no active contact number to reach the store yet. This is done purposely since Canada Corals does not have the time to check voicemail with any consistent frequency. A contact number will be provided when the store is ready for business. E-mail inquiries are currently the best form of communication for the time being.

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Glass for Livestock Aquariums - yet to be built by hand:

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Stand for Livestock/Fish Aquariums:

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Photograph Station:

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Isabelle, Hubert (Clownfish Man - Photo bombed? ;)), Dan

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Damn you red! Iam soooo madjelly that you got to see Canada corals before I did!

~Tony

No need to to be mad or jealous...there's lots of love to go around. They're opening soon. You already have lots of eye candy to look at. ;)

Have to agree with Taipan and this is going to be a game changer for the reefing community in the GTA. The attention to detail that has gone into the setups is simply mind blowing...Pictures don't begin to do the store justice you will have to see it for your self.

Thanks to Dan, Isabelle (sp?) and their kitty for giving us a sneek peek last night. :biggrin:

amazing build very proud to be such a large part of this. Great work guys.

Wow. We really appreciate the kind words and excellent feedback you had for us.

It was really nice meeting you all!

We still have a long road ahead of us before we are satisfied but at least you got to see the "bones" of the operation. :)

That's a LOT of Mitras! Holy $$$$$$$!

Looking really good though. :smile:

sick sick SICK!

please tell me those are the empty boxes from your own mitras up on the shelf. do guests get to see the money tree in the private garden behind the store?

did i say SICK?

:biggrin:

.....I didn't see a Money Tree anywhere ;). BUT....when you walk into the store there's the 300 Gallon Display they are setting up, a Flat Screen TV, Sofa, and Jelly Fish Display to relax and enjoy.

There's also a nice kitchen area with a nice sized refrigerator for both coral/fish food and.....ice cold beverages. ;) Fresh pastries and cappuccino maker.

P.S. - They have some extra Mitras kicking around for sale too.

Ok, need to make a road trip out to this store! When do you open?

Hmmm, go big, or go home?...

On the Topic of Road Trips.....
 

If schedules permit - I've played tour guide on LFS roadtrips before ;) The estimated opening date is mid-late October from our last conversation.

I can't comment on that.....But at the end of the day; it doesn't matter how nice and fancy a store is - What matters is service and the quality and pricing of livestock (my opinion). From what I've seen so far - service won't be an issue. Time will tell regarding the remainder of the formula; but I'm hopeful and confident things will fall into place. :)