me and you buddy are in the same boat both running pros;)

t5 hybrid

I'm sure jl sells them as prob ray at reef supplies. But your looking at $1200+

Ok cool thanks.

yellow zoas turned green, bright really bright yellow mini carpet turned a bit green

super sweet lobo, hated my tank and died asap.

really bright pink favia has been put from top to bottom in my tank and doesnt wanna color up and stays bleached in some areas.

with that being said, some corals are doing really well and I am seeing some good growth, so i might mess with the settings and go from there. But I do miss the t5s. But didnt miss them this summer when my tank was really stable for temp even when my house was an oven.


anywho this thread has now costed me money, because i finally ordered up the replacement ballast for my 24 ati sunpower sitting in the basement, as I should unload that one of these days.

to non reef nerds i have the sweetest fn tank ever with the neon disco party.

Id love to show the world, but cannot photo it for the life of me.

I didn't know this until recently but to much light will make for nice green colors to come out.
I may be safe to say your lights are to bright

What's peak %

just running the eco tech deep reef setting, so im not sure, but thanks for the advice. Ill mess with the lights tonight when i get home from the rig.

If you want a t5 hybrid you don't necessarily have to go out and buy a whole new unit. You can simply add a T5 retrofit kit to your existing LEDs. There, instant hybrid :-) Probably cheaper this way too.

Thanks Kien:biggrin:

Swapped back to T5's over here as well :neutral:.
Same reasoning as Denny, the lights were amazing for my SPS and zoas but just are not tolerating when it comes to LPS. Even @ an intensity of 35% bleaching still occurred.

Did you guys all had a secret meeting? And decide to drop led at the same time!? :-)

~Tony

Nope just saw what MJC was pack'n and decided to roll with it. I have no clue what's going on. People just want to dust off the old car and take it for a spin.

Not sure what the LPS bleaching is all about, I've never bleached anything in my tank :redface:

I am still riding my led bike! I just added the T5 bells, safely night Light and a fender :-)

~Tony

Yeah gunna see what happens with ecotech and ghl now that were all off the led train. Better pull your shares before the plummet

Not you too!!

Wow, bleaching at 35% ??? I keep hearing of people having to run their LEDs at 50% or lower. I understand why this may be necessary, but it still boggles my mind, especially after all the threads about, "is there enough light in LEDs ??" Clearly, even in the cheapest LEDs there must be enough light ? I guess I don't understand why LEDs are bleaching corals when halides crank out more wattage ? This may not be the best place to discuss that though. Maybe I'll ask it in the "is there enough light in LEDs" thread.

depending on what optics they use, LEDs can be a cannon !!:D

I run 6 AI Sol over my tank at 100% and everything does well. Even the LPS on the bottom (euphylia sp.)

don't mean to hijack - but I've been having a hell of a time with my LPS with Vertex Illuminas over a 18" deep tank at 52% - overall health is suffering, and considered going back to my T5's with some ATI's. My nano tank on the other hand with a PAR33 bulb is a life saver. Any corals that are diminishing in health I drop in there, and overnight they transform.

If your tank is lps dominant try running more blues and less whites in my experience lps loves led.

~Tony

Agreed. Wifey has a par38 on her tank and lps love it

I currently run 10W/50/52. Not much white in there. I did have a semi tank crash a little over a week ago and the corals are starting to wake up again, so - we'll see.

Bling Bling Baby

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Wow what a difference. I have it at 14" to start. I'll leave it for a while and see how coral reacts. Been so long since having halide I forgot how crisp and clean it looks
The spread of that luminarc is crazy. No shadows at all

the reflector has nearly as much volume as your display. that doesn't hurt lol.

Lol. Yeah never thought of that.

I really like how your setosa is spilling onto the ground! Cool effect.

Any updates? How's the halide?

Halides great. Sort of. I had some ballast issues. The vertex ballast was from a bad batch and was under driving the bulb to the point of flicker. Vertex has since stopped production and abandoned that line. I borrowed a ballast from MA until new one arrives. Going to try a luxcore eballast.

In turns of the outcome it's been great. Growth has increase dramatically and colors on new growth is amazing. I have one pieces that gone from green to blue and purple. Really has become a fav
For the most part colors are coming around as I had a bleaching incident just prior to switching

The setosa has I crusted 5x that pic since puting the halide on

Post up some pics when you get around to it. I like progression shots. :biggrin:

FWIW I've found that certain LPS families just cannot take my radions either. Chalices, most brains, scolies, etc... no go in my tank. They bleach to death rapidly wherever light hits them directly. Elegance corals, frogspawns, and *some* acans do ok. The funny thing is that under a Kessil ocean blue in my pico tank, all my brains recovered beautifully, got back their super deep, rich reds and greens. That fixture is LED, but it has no red or green diodes, and the mixture of blue to white is completely different, which might be the reason

In any case I'd likely try T5s on a smaller tank in the future.

Have you had any corals that have morphed in an unappealing way under the halides?

It's funny you spend so much on a led and expect great results but in fact the par38 on our other tank did a better job with lps than the radion. Now I wouldn't say I care for the par38 just based on the color seperation and the fact I had to were bell bottoms and put abba on the ok turntable.

As for the halide the only piece that's not what I hoped is the first fire digi. The colors are still there but the pop is not. Though it may just be a adjustment period. My setosa keeps it's pop. So I don't think its a halide vs orange issue

Should also say that since the ballast is currently under driving the bulb it's a little whiter than I would like. New luxcore eballast is on route

Also have a RB led retro coming as IMO RB led helps the pop

All in all halides kick ass. It just disappointing that it will soon be harder to get ballast as most companies have stopped supplying. Vertex, lumetek for example are out. But eballast are still avalible at most hydroponic shops

vertex has stopped making ballasts? wow, I didn't know that. It would be a shame if MH were to die out because equipment stopped being available. It's a tried, tested and true method.

I've sometimes wondered if I could tweak my radion program to make it more hospitable to the LPS that hate them, but since my tank is 95% SPS that seem to be doing fine (though some of the colour issues that you described are definitely happening in my tank as well) I'm too freaked out to tweak things in a way that might harm them.

Have you guys seen the new reefbrite mh+led!? Trina @ reef wholesale was telling me about it and I think it's definitely will be a contender! Now all reefbrite has to do is incorporate t5 then we might have a winner winner chicken dinner!

~Tony

+1 tis be true

That's a big issue I think is because you can tweak people do. Not allowing enough time for coral to acclimate. Most of us I would expect don't have a lot of patience and want instant results

I'm sure there will always be mh. Just have to start looking in other areas for parts.
I just found out about vertex ballast since I returned my defective one.



I just saw last week. It looks ok I wasn't impressed with the look of the pendant myself though it may be prototype.
You can also buy just the led part to add to existing pendant
http://reefbuilders.com/2011/03/16/r...halide-hybrid/

New ballast came In today. Bought a luxcore. So far it's great. It has a overdrive option but I don't think I'll need it there quite a difference between the two settings
Also picked up a couple old 250 HQI ballast as it's good to have back up
Also picked up a red fromia and Midas Blenny a while ago
In hopin when Phil sees my iPhone pics he'll pop over with his camera

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Looks nice and sleek. Do you have a par meter to check out the levels? It does look a little bit high.

As in the pendants is high?
It's 14" above water and I do plan on lowering it once I find a par meter to borrow
The tank is only 12" deep I didn't want to bleech everything

Don't mind the heater in the overflow. I just tossed it in there as wife kept back door open for the dogs and the cold air went downstairs. It's in sump now

Ya that is what I meant. It looks like its pretty high and you are getting a lot of light spillage. Always best to be cautious though. If things start getting brown you can lower it. Of course a par meter is going to help a lot.

Before I put the halide on I had a bleaching incident with the led. I didn't want to shock the coral any more as my thought was brown is better than dead. Lol
I am planning on lowering a few inches at a time
I am using my setosa as a indicator now as its very pink lol