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Aquattro 01-04-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 578767)
Custom App availability will be subject to review prior to availability to end users to prevent any issues with system corruption.

Isn't this moving away from the open source concept? One of the things I like about the Apex is that a

Aquattro 01-04-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 578767)
Custom App availability will be subject to review prior to availability to end users to prevent any issues with system corruption.

Isn't this moving away from the open source concept? One of the things I like about the Apex is that a reefer

Aquattro 01-04-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 578767)
Custom App availability will be subject to review prior to availability to end users to prevent any issues with system corruption.

Isn't this moving away from the open source concept? One of the things I like about the Apex is that a reefer wrote

Aquattro 01-04-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 578767)
Custom App availability will be subject to review prior to availability to end users to prevent any issues with system corruption.

Isn't this moving away from the open source concept? One of the things I like about the Apex is that a reefer wrote an

Aquattro 01-04-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albert_dao (Post 578767)
Custom App availability will be subject to review prior to availability to end users to prevent any issues with system corruption.

Isn't this moving away from the open source concept? One of the things I like about the Apex is that a reefer wrote an app, and it's always improving with requested updates.

albert_dao 01-04-2011 05:36 PM

You're always going to be free to write your own apps or unregistered apps at your own risk.

mr.wilson 01-04-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 578786)
Isn't this moving away from the open source concept? One of the things I like about the Apex is that a reefer wrote an app, and it's always improving with requested updates.

Posting via android? :) Now imagine it was a dosing pump that jams instead of a post button.

Aquattro 01-04-2011 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mr.wilson (Post 578802)
Posting via android? :) Now imagine it was a dosing pump that jams instead of a post button.

No, posting via Lenovo laptop :) And I don't use dosing pumps, so it's all good -lol
But, I've never had any issues with my Android phone that I haven't induced myself, so I'd be confident in using it as a controller interface.

Doug 01-04-2011 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 578804)
No, posting via Lenovo laptop :) And I don't use dosing pumps, so it's all good -lol
But, I've never had any issues with my Android phone that I haven't induced myself, so I'd be confident in using it as a controller interface.

If you had a Mac, that would not happen Brad. :lol:

mr.wilson 01-04-2011 06:12 PM

I'm not even sure what Android is, but I don't see it as a problem either.

Aquattro 01-04-2011 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 578807)
If you had a Mac, that would not happen Brad. :lol:

you're right, I probably wouldn't have been able to post at all!!

Aquattro 01-17-2011 05:29 AM

Just a follow up, I bought the Apex with an additional powerbar, and so far I'm really happy with it. From opening the box to logging into the web interface via browser took about 10 minutes. Simple devices are easily manageable thru the web interface, and adding your own Advanced settings statements seems pretty straight forward.
Down side is I have to move all my ballasts to the other side of the stand so they can reach :)

fencer 01-17-2011 05:43 AM

Welcome to the APEX brotherhood :)

Aquattro 01-17-2011 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fencer (Post 582594)
Welcome to the APEX brotherhood :)

Do I get a ring?? :)

lastlight 01-17-2011 06:11 AM

No you get to move ballasts =)

cwatkins 01-17-2011 06:16 AM

Where's your fancy new signature? :lol:

Aquattro 01-17-2011 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 582597)
No you get to move ballasts =)

hmmph, some brotherhood!! -lol

Aquattro 01-17-2011 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cwatkins (Post 582598)
Where's your fancy new signature? :lol:

Well, right now it would say Temp = too high. Metal halide 1 = Off. RO topoff=maybe later. metal halide 2,3=hey, where the hell are MH 2&3?

Not quite ready to play with the sig stuff, although setting it all up via my phone from the couch is pretty cool :P And since it's a web interface, I can use phone, PC or my iPad without having to install anything. Love that part!

StirCrazy 01-17-2011 07:25 AM

has there been any smoke yet?

Steve

Funky_Fish14 01-17-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 577312)
So far, looking at all 3 products, I've decided that they all need to dumb down their product promo material. I'm not an electrical engineer, and mostly still don't know what I need to accomplish x, y & z.
Like why do I need a module that plugs into the Apex which measures pH/ORP when the unit does that out of the box? And a bus is something people ride on, not install on their tanks :P
Use.Simple.Words.

Hmmm, I definitely have to agree haha. I consider myself... at least a bit above the 'average' computer user, in terms of understanding techno-lingo and abilities... but I have to agree. These controllers, profilux in particular, aren't entirely user-friendly on all their bases.


This thread has been very useful! Thanks! Im looking at going controller route... profilux was my original consideration (out of ignorance... It is simply the one I knew most about from previous research), but will have more to think about now!

Good luck with your APEX Brad! Keep us updated!

Cheers,

Chris

PoonTang 01-17-2011 09:18 AM

Congrats on the purchase brad. I knew you would love it. I am still waiting to get another power bar for mine so I can have one mounted at the other end of the stand to run a bunch more stuff that I didn't have room for on the first bar. I am going to get a breakout box too so I can have sump and ato reservoir floats and a water on floor sensor.

Aquattro 01-17-2011 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky_Fish14 (Post 582614)
I consider myself... at least a bit above the 'average' computer user, in terms of understanding techno-lingo and abilities... but I have to agree. These controllers, profilux in particular, aren't entirely user-friendly on all their bases.

Chris

After reading a few threads here and at RC, I was a bit worried about difficulty in setup, but it was dead easy, pretty much configuring itself on the network. I plugged it into my router, used the display pad to see the IP, punched that into my browser, entered default admin and password, and away we went!
The basics are that simple again. You pick the outlet for the light, use the gui for on and off times, etc. For more complicated things, the Unofficial manual has examples that you modify for your own needs, for example, my water solenoid...OSC 15/165/0 Then ON is a simple statement that says at midnight, turn on for 15 minutes, off for 165, then repeat. This lets my topoff run 15 minutes every three hours. Pretty easy, and no computer experience required.
Gareth was over last night (from ProReef) and was impressed with his initial view of the stuff, which is pretty good, because I'm pretty sure he sleeps with some of his Profilux stuff :)
Overall, unless you need the profilux for something in particular, Apex is a great choice. I had one support question already re: cord lengths, and Curt, the owner, replied within an hour on a Saturday night!
All the gear I need cost about 800 after taxes, so a savings of about $600 over the Profilux. For users with less than 3 x 400w MH, you could get away with only one powerbar, for an additional savings of about $200.

Aquattro 01-17-2011 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PoonTang (Post 582616)
. I am still waiting to get another power bar for mine so I can have one mounted at the other end of the stand to run a bunch more stuff that I didn't have room for on the first bar.

My problem is that my stand is about 7 feet long, and the power cords on the bars are 6 feet :) That means either a centrally mounted base unit, which is ugly to wire under stand, or, as I've done, all the controller stuff is mounted on one end in a separate cabinet. Unfortunately the cabinet is on the left of the tank, and all the electrical stuff in stand is on the right. Poor planning on my part, so now I have to reorganize the layout to run wires to the left. A bit of a pain, but it will clean up my wiring mess -lol

Aquattro 01-17-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 582608)
has there been any smoke yet?

Steve

Surprisingly, no! :) smartass....:wink:

Aquattro 01-17-2011 12:53 PM

Hey, whadayaknow, Canreef has a specific forum for this type of thread..who knew??

Moved to the right forum :)

seasmurf 02-10-2011 10:28 PM

18 Controlers Comparison Spreadsheet
 
Hi, this file is too big for me to attatch, if you want it, just P|M me and I will email it. My good friend NAS uses the reekeeper II.

Reefkeeper I
AquaController Jr
Biotope
ReefKeeper II
Light House
Solar 1000
Aquacontroler III
Aquadyne 4000
Basicline
Aquamedic
Aquatronica
ProfiLux Plus II
AquaController III Pro
Profiline
AquaSmart
IKS Midi
Riff Control
Elos Biotopus II

whatcaneyedo 02-11-2011 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by seasmurf (Post 590124)
Hi, this file is too big for me to attatch, if you want it, just P|M me and I will email it. My good friend NAS uses the reekeeper II.

Reefkeeper I
AquaController Jr
Biotope
ReefKeeper II
Light House
Solar 1000
Aquacontroler III
Aquadyne 4000
Basicline
Aquamedic
Aquatronica
ProfiLux Plus II
AquaController III Pro
Profiline
AquaSmart
IKS Midi
Riff Control
Elos Biotopus II

That spreadsheet is getting pretty outdated but it can also be downloaded here: http://www.aquariumcontrollers.com/a...omparisons.php

seasmurf 02-11-2011 01:15 AM

LOL! I'm so far behind I think I'm first! :dizzy:
Good, I'll take that new link and go back to my padded room now (they dont let me out very often).:mrgreen:


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