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sphelps 07-17-2013 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 832592)
sorry that was a typo. without the air pump it reads 10

i was told that using a 1" tubing will give me greater pressure than if i had used 1.5"

LOL ok I thought I fixed all your problems. But i'd still be curious to know what the airflow is like just from the pump itself. I think the pump will put out the same amount no matter what so the two things aren't necessarily working together.

Pressure is not a good thing from your piping. Smaller diameter pipe adds pressure to the pump head meaning less flow. The more flow you put through that Beckett thingy the higher velocity though the restriction will be meaning a higher outwards pressure drop at the airline ultimately meaning more air will get sucked in. You don't want to restrict your flow before you even get it to the Beckett. Its really all about velocity through the Beckett, pressure rated pumps will do that better but decreasing pipe size prior to increase head pressure makes zero sense.

Skimmerking 07-18-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 832600)
Pressure is not a good thing from your piping. Smaller diameter pipe adds pressure to the pump head meaning less flow. The more flow you put through that Beckett thingy the higher velocity though the restriction will be meaning a higher outwards pressure drop at the airline ultimately meaning more air will get sucked in. You don't want to restrict your flow before you even get it to the Beckett. Its really all about velocity through the Beckett, pressure rated pumps will do that better but decreasing pipe size prior to increase head pressure makes zero sense.


Agree with Steve Mark. the pressure allows the water to still push. at any head. That is why a pressure pump is recommended as for the becketts dude. that doesn't make sense you should still get huge bubbles with the dual becket. its not about the amount of air its about how many bubbles the beckets creates which gives you huge contact time. I have always had the best foam with any beckett skimmer.

Just curious thou when you look at the becket valve that is the black piece that that water goes through. I cant remember the name. just make sure that its not backwards. that beckett should be having a loud hissing sound from the air being sucked into that valve inlet.

Skimmerking 07-18-2013 12:22 AM

MarkoD what type of pump are you running with your skmmer again. I know that a MAg 2400 doesn't compare to a Mak 5 or a panworld 150

MarkoD 07-18-2013 12:30 AM

yeah the beckett creates a loud hissing sound when it sucks in the air.

without the air pump it the becketts each draw 280 liters per min. and it still created foam.

but as per the manufactures recommendation for a 12" body, i added an air pump which boosts it to 700 liters per min into each beckett

the pump feeding the skimmer is a reeflo barracuda

MarkoD 07-18-2013 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 832600)
LOL ok I thought I fixed all your problems. But i'd still be curious to know what the airflow is like just from the pump itself. I think the pump will put out the same amount no matter what so the two things aren't necessarily working together.

Pressure is not a good thing from your piping. Smaller diameter pipe adds pressure to the pump head meaning less flow. The more flow you put through that Beckett thingy the higher velocity though the restriction will be meaning a higher outwards pressure drop at the airline ultimately meaning more air will get sucked in. You don't want to restrict your flow before you even get it to the Beckett. Its really all about velocity through the Beckett, pressure rated pumps will do that better but decreasing pipe size prior to increase head pressure makes zero sense.

do you mean what the air draw is from the beckett with just the water traveling through it or what the air pump is putting out without it connected to the skimmer?

and in regards to increasing the volume through the beckett, should i run a 1.5" pipe from the pump to the splitter and then split it to the two 1" pipes? the skimmer inlet is 1"

MarkoD 07-18-2013 12:36 AM

ok so without the air tubing connected to the skimmer. the air pump pushes 30 SCFM

MarkoD 07-18-2013 01:07 AM

k so i fully took out the becketts. disassembled them and cleaned them. made sure to put them together properly.

now the air flow meter is showing 30SCFM with everything connected to the skimmer. and the skimmer overflowed when i plugged it back in

Skimmerking 07-18-2013 01:40 AM

Here text me your number man i will call u 2045738402

Skimmerking 07-18-2013 01:46 AM

ok were the ball valves put in wrong it seems to be working now what is wrong with 30 per beckett

spit.fire 07-18-2013 01:47 AM

I vote you scrap the Beckett and buy my reeflo orca :D


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