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reefwars 01-12-2013 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuz (Post 781783)
what fixtures have you run on your personal tank??


on my bonsai just the radions , weve had the illumina260 ,skyy light(?),marineland and sols on the other tank at my house. also some stunner strips for a while

i was a bit nervous on doing the switch to leds with my bonsais corals as theyve been under mh for so long and some of them are almost impossible to find so i finally decided on going ecotech for the bonsai , i added some vortechs and 2 x radions slowly over a couple months switiching out the outdated equiment.


did take home a vega for a week same with a razor when they came out but only had them up long enough to see how they looked.

at the store we are running kessils,mazzerras,razors,radions.

on the store display we will have 2 ghl's about to be set up on that tank and we have some radion pros coming for the store displays as well.

Bblinks 01-12-2013 05:55 PM

Lets see some pictures of your tanks. Interested on what you consider better or worse reefwars.

reefwars 01-12-2013 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 781813)
Lets see some pictures of your tanks. Interested on what you consider better or worse reefwars.





how so?

Bblinks 01-12-2013 08:25 PM

Just want to see why you think radions are so much better. love to see a picture of your tank just for reference thats all.

subman 01-12-2013 08:40 PM

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...009_094805.jpg

Here is a side by side the vegas are on the left g1 radions w/o tir lenses on the right.
the vegas are at %100 (no controller at the time) and the radions are at aprox %75 (still ramping up at the time)

I will add I ran the tank like this for a couple months and there was no noticable growth difference but the vegas ran at %100 all day while the Radions ran a custom profile.


****I'd also like to add my tank is much nicer and fuller now lol****

denny_CC 01-12-2013 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bblinks (Post 781856)
Just want to see why you think radions are so much better. love to see a picture of your tank just for reference thats all.


here is my tank journal it started off with sunpod 250w halide which is similiar to what it was in the 90g.

youll have to browse through the journal to see what the differences are , personally compared to halides with this tank the radions arnt quite as good as my halide was , spread wise the tank is darker , things at the bottom are just as happy as they were with the halides but the stuff on top of the tank is growing much faster since the switch.

i started at 30% and 10-12" above water level( i dont reccommend 8" )

im now comfortably at 60% peak during the day.

the switch over was a little hard on my thin fleshed corals like chalices, favias and some of my sps .

heres the link to my journal:

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...ghlight=bonsai



unfoprtunately i only have a camera phone for pictures so the quality isnt dslr, with all the money i spoend on corals you would think id have a good camera by now lol :)



heres a fts taken by sphelps and his dslr plus some close ups if it helps any:)

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5dfdb1d9.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5a28cfb9.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps3a224549.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4c8176aa.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps439420e4.jpg

and some top downs taken with my phone:

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3807.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3806.jpg


http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3805.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3804.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3803.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3801.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3800.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3794.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3793.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3781.jpg

http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/a...nk/IMG3783.jpg

denny_CC 01-12-2013 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subman (Post 781860)
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...009_094805.jpg

Here is a side by side the vegas are on the left g1 radions w/o tir lenses on the right.
the vegas are at %100 (no controller at the time) and the radions are at aprox %75 (still ramping up at the time)

I will add I ran the tank like this for a couple months and there was no noticable growth difference but the vegas ran at %100 all day while the Radions ran a custom profile.


****I'd also like to add my tank is much nicer and fuller now lol****

radions are noticeably brighter

radion g1 has better spread than ai sol

they do not need a controller------ edit*** (to run multiple lights)

bluetooth to wirelss eco tech products

touch sensor buttons( should be lcd but what ever ...)

slim profile

clean hanging kit

2 led pucks


thats just to name a few of the bonouses of g1 radions over sols, there are alot more especially if we start talking g2 over the g1 and pros over the g2

well see if ai comes out with anything new and whether or not they go par with ghl or ecotech but right now its not there in the vega.

cuz 01-12-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by denny@conceptaquatics (Post 781865)
radions are noticeably brighter

radion g1 has better spread than ai sol

they do not need a controller------ edit*** (to run multiple lights)

bluetooth to wirelss eco tech products

touch sensor buttons( should be lcd but what ever ...)

slim profile

clean hanging kit

2 led pucks


thats just to name a few of the bonouses of g1 radions over sols, there are alot more especially if we start talking g2 over the g1 and pros over the g2

well see if ai comes out with anything new and whether or not they go par with ghl or ecotech but right now its not there in the vega.



most of the differences stated are bells and whistles.
No offence Denny but it is hard to compare apples to apples over a lps/ zoanthid tank. I'm happy with my SOL's but have only compared them myself to 6 250w MH used previously.
The radions are nice to look at in the box on the shelf but not worth the extra $$'s IMO. I seen them over a very healthy sps tank and the parts of the colony directly under the fixture were night and day different looking as to the part that was slightly off center.
just my two cents based only off what I've seen myself.

Bblinks 01-12-2013 10:16 PM

Hey Denny and Subman, Thanks for the pictures!

Subman, your comparison pictures does show a brighter and more intense light from the radions but that being said we don't know what or how the corals would react under the 2 different lighting. Are you going to keep the tank lit like this for a bit and see how corals react to it? I am more interested in sps growth and coloration then anything as I am more of a sps guy and some lps. I would love to see how 2 exact same coral(sps) would turn out under the 2 different led lights. If you are willing, I can supply some frags...

Denny, you guys have most of the leds in stock and on display. Take in account of price, quailty, and functionailty, which one of the 5 would you go with on your own tank, AI Vega, Radion G2, Mitras, reefbrite, vertex 360? And why?

Thanks in advance for your reponse.

Bblinks 01-12-2013 10:22 PM

Btw, I am currently using AI sols, I can tell you I get great growth out of my sps. They are also so intense I usually bleach any lps that I don;t acclaim to it properly. I also get great colors from my sps but it does not reflect certain colors from those sols since they are heavy in the blue spectrum. I would move corals between my ai tank and my t5 frag tank. Some colors just pop under the T5's which I just don;t see it in the maintank, not that they are present but just not reflected properly. IMO
Thinking about switching to either ai vegas or maybe profilux , but I have my reason for not wanting to go the profilux route.


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