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lastlight 11-20-2012 10:21 PM

that fish is gorgeous! any more pics?

marie 11-20-2012 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by wickedfrags (Post 765826)
great thread. but gotta ask, starphire glass scratches to easy according to whom???


According to me for one....already I'm regretting the starphire glass on my tank :neutral:

Proteus 11-20-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueTang<3 (Post 765846)
U dont want my life work outside and work about 70 hours a week on average usually 12 hrs plus 6 days a week

Sucks hey. I did 88 hours last week in 6 days

Seth81 11-21-2012 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 765867)
According to me for one....already I'm regretting the starphire glass on my tank :neutral:

I 100% agree, my tank is like 4 months old and its scratched so much just from the glass cleaner.

wickedfrags 11-21-2012 12:29 PM

Interesting. IMO you really need to be mindful of the person telling you about the glass, and maybe see their current tank. what do the stores say out there?

I think reef keepers generally fall into 2 categories when it comes to scratches in their tank, those who scratch their glass, and those who do not.

For example, I helped move a brand new tank for a fellow reefer, a brand new starphire tank (replacing an older non-starphire tank). Tank was perfect when we moved it. 4 months later I go over to check it out, more scratches on the 4 month old tank than I have put on tanks in the my entire life!!! (including 4 starphire tanks). His old tank was quite scratched up also.

I am not suggesting starphire does not scratch more easily based on the properties of the glass. That being said I have exclusively purchased starphire tanks since 2003 and have never found it to be a problem, and have never put a scratch of significance on any other them.

Just me, perhaps I am just a little weird about how I maintain the glass. I did not notice any problems moving from regular float glass to low iron. cheers.




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Originally Posted by BlueTang<3 (Post 765845)
I have heard low iron glass is softer and scratches easier I had a frag tank made of low iron glass and just using a razor on it would put marks in it.


whytey 11-21-2012 01:42 PM

lighting
 
you will be very happy with your lights i have one above my cube and it is awesome i"am in the glens in stony plain
Glen:lol:

Marlin65 11-21-2012 03:16 PM

Same never had a problem with that. I have a call in to my glass suplier to find out if it is softer or not. I don't see how it could be.


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Originally Posted by wickedfrags (Post 766057)
Interesting. IMO you really need to be mindful of the person telling you about the glass, and maybe see their current tank. what do the stores say out there?

I think reef keepers generally fall into 2 categories when it comes to scratches in their tank, those who scratch their glass, and those who do not.

For example, I helped move a brand new tank for a fellow reefer, a brand new starphire tank (replacing an older non-starphire tank). Tank was perfect when we moved it. 4 months later I go over to check it out, more scratches on the 4 month old tank than I have put on tanks in the my entire life!!! (including 4 starphire tanks). His old tank was quite scratched up also.

I am not suggesting starphire does not scratch more easily based on the properties of the glass. That being said I have exclusively purchased starphire tanks since 2003 and have never found it to be a problem, and have never put a scratch of significance on any other them.

Just me, perhaps I am just a little weird about how I maintain the glass. I did not notice any problems moving from regular float glass to low iron. cheers.


sphelps 11-21-2012 03:19 PM

In the risk of high-jacking I just wanted to mention in regards to scratching low-iron glass. Not all low-iron glass is Starphire, this is a brand made by PPG and although said to be the most popular brand of low iron it's also the most expensive and not used all that much for aquariums. My previous tank was actually starphire glass that I purchased straight from PPG, never scratched it once. My new tank is some other low-iron, it's already scratched and I have a theory some low-iron scratches much easier than others hence the large difference in opinions regarding this matter.

Build is looking good btw, good choice on the light fixtures!

reefwars 11-21-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 766087)
In the risk of high-jacking I just wanted to mention in regards to scratching low-iron glass. Not all low-iron glass is Starphire, this is a brand made by PPG and although said to be the most popular brand of low iron it's also the most expensive and not used all that much for aquariums. My previous tank was actually starphire glass that I purchased straight from PPG, never scratched it once. My new tank is some other low-iron, it's already scratched and I have a theory some low-iron scratches much easier than others hence the large difference in opinions regarding this matter.

Build is looking good btw, good choice on the light fixtures!


you nailed it buddy, cost and quality plays alot .

BlueTang<3 11-21-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 766087)

Build is looking good btw, good choice on the light fixtures!


I totally copied you on that choice I figured from all of your posts your a well educated guy an do your homework about things, it was on my list but once I saw you got them it put it over the top.


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