I have about a month to wait until I can buy a pump. I have a friend who might lend me a mp40 just to try out. I like the tunze 7095 controller but I've never seen one in person though. I would only ever want 2 pumps for my tank.

I got my hands on 2 mp40 pumps to try out. First impression was the look of the pumps they are very nice. I quickly looked through the manual 40 some pages. This pump has some nice running modes. I got them running I could hear them especially when I turned them up, they are really noisy in pulse mode. I can't run them at max speed anyways because it disturbs my sand. I turned them down and they are not so loud but definitely noticeable. I'm currently using reef crest mode.

Jason,
maybe try two mp10w es? you have the 40's dialled back, maybe two 10's would be enough? Just a thought, I know where you can get two 10's to try, you saw how quickly they made a wave in the 90. LMK

They are running little above about 80% (10th led)power. I'm really surprised how wide the flow is on these pumps. I'm going to do some research on the mp10's never even thought about them before.

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWUSI...eature=feedlik

I run my MP40W ES pair at about 80 to 85% as well (4 foot 77 gal), in TSM as mentioned earlier. Find this a good compromise between the right amount of flow, flow patterns & sound from the pumps. I've never seen an MP10 in action but I would think on a tank your size they will need to be set to 100% for best results. No idea how much noise an MP10 makes compared to a 40, but personally, I'd rather have 40s turned down a little than 10s running at max. If you can get your hands on a couple of MP10s to try, that's great, 'cause in the end that's the best way to see what works for you.

That's a great video there Marko, really condenses the capability of the MP10s, wireless, battery backup & flow modes.

I honestly don't understand the issues people have with the noise. I have an old non es mp40 at 100% and I can't hear it standing in front of the tank

I can hear these pumps over anything in my room at 100%. It's the loudest thing on my tank, if people can't hear it they need hearing aids. I'm kidding. Anyways if it came down to the decision it wouldn't be the noise. Although they can be noisy I'm starting the like the features, I've gotten used to my overflow so I can put up with some humming sounds..

i just installed another MP40. and it took me about 20 min to get the alignment right, but its i can barely hear it at full power pulsing

I find the noise or sound of a VorTech actually varies from one to another. I always put my ear to the glass when aligning them to ensure I get the quietest result possible, yet one of my pumps is somewhat louder than the other. I've also read that if you don't choose the right spacer setting, this can cause the pump to run louder. In any case, I don't find the sound that obtrusive and the features outweigh the whirring or humming noise in my case. There are folks that run very silent tanks and the VorTech will not be for them. I take advantage of the night mode not only to reduce the sound in the evening, but more so to save power & wear & tear on the pumps.