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Fox 03-18-2009 08:03 PM

Apparently I just didnt understand what I was reading at first..Got it figured out...
Thanks again!

Pan 03-18-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 400695)
Hi, welcome to the board :) First, your pH is way too low for a SW tank, therefore, I don't believe the value, I've seen tap water with a pH of 7. Yours is not 7.0. Trust me, it's just not. If you have cleaner shrimp in the tank surviving, your pH is fine enough.
Tap water is not the best, but many successful people here use it. Again, not likey your problem.
what kind of salt your using is important, maybe check it and report back.
Ammonia is too high if you can read it, so yes, you need to find the dead fish. Sucks, I know, but you gotta get it out. The tank is too small to support natural decomposition.
I agree with Canadian, dripping for an hour is not required, I float to match temp, dump them in.
Salifert kits are good. Elos kits are good.
Specific gravity is too low for a reef, it should be 1.026. But, at this point, you're just trying to keep fish alive, 1.022 will not be harmful to them.

Now wait until you stabilize things a bit, do a water change to get rid of ammonia, next time you get one fish only, acclimate as described by Canadian, and see if you have better luck. If someone here has offered to test your water, take them up on it, a third opinion is great.


As per dumping in...if his salinty is 1.022 and the stores is 1.025 or 1.026 then simply dumping is foolhardy...if his is higher then it is a bit less shock, but if his is lower than the stores i would say dumping them in is bad advice.

Fox 03-18-2009 08:35 PM

Thats what I figured... I had been testing theirs vs mine...and dripping based on that...but even then it was suggested I was dripping for too long.

subman 03-18-2009 08:54 PM

The problem with slow dripping is temperature unless you can float and drip!

You are using marine salt though right?
The reason I ask is marine salt is buffered right out of the pail so you would have a higher ph.

Fox 03-18-2009 09:13 PM

Good call...I never considered the temperature when I was dripping...Thanks!

I thought I would try and save a few bucks and I am using those round salt tablets that we use to soften our water...

<dramatic pause>

Kidding of course...Until I get home I don't remember the details of the type of salt I bought...I originally bought a bag and then bought a big pail from big al's on boxing day...

Aquattro 03-18-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pan (Post 400809)
As per dumping in...if his salinty is 1.022 and the stores is 1.025 or 1.026 then simply dumping is foolhardy...if his is higher then it is a bit less shock, but if his is lower than the stores i would say dumping them in is bad advice.

Well, that was the point of a lot of the comments, the differences that work for people. I always dump, regardless of salinity. Fish are a lot tougher than we give them credit for...not bad advice, just different..

Pan 03-18-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 400835)
Well, that was the point of a lot of the comments, the differences that work for people. I always dump, regardless of salinity. Fish are a lot tougher than we give them credit for...not bad advice, just different..

then when doing hypo treatments you would not have to slowly increase salinity..hmm..

Pan 03-18-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 400831)
Good call...I never considered the temperature when I was dripping...Thanks!

I thought I would try and save a few bucks and I am using those round salt tablets that we use to soften our water...

<dramatic pause>

Kidding of course...Until I get home I don't remember the details of the type of salt I bought...I originally bought a bag and then bought a big pail from big al's on boxing day...

Aah..water softening tablets....i'd be inclined to say that is your problem at the very least the problem with the low ph

subman 03-18-2009 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 400831)
Good call...I never considered the temperature when I was dripping...Thanks!

I thought I would try and save a few bucks and I am using those round salt tablets that we use to soften our water...

<dramatic pause>

Kidding of course...Until I get home I don't remember the details of the type of salt I bought...I originally bought a bag and then bought a big pail from big al's on boxing day...

I know it sounds like a stupid question but you never know!

Aquattro 03-18-2009 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pan (Post 400837)
then when doing hypo treatments you would not have to slowly increase salinity..hmm..

Well, your probably right, but let's not tell my fish, ok :) They think they're fine..


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