Sorry if my choice of words were not too clear ,what I meant is that ,does not matter where you will buy LR it will have some dead matter on or in it that needs to be cycled off simply because of handling & transportation ,however even if you get fresh LR right out of the ocean it will still have some nutrient buildup inside it ,because it houses bacteria that cycles nutrient & has loaded the rock with some nutrients overtime .
Moving rock in the tank will cause a mini cycle even if the rock has been cured ,simply becauase some organizims will die because of being moved to dark side & some have been moved out of cryptic zone .
In case of ceramics there is no live matter on them to die so simply this will not be the case.
If you click on the reefceramic site they have discussed this in detail in german ,online translator will give you an idea what they are talking about.
I appologize for not being clear & I hope this helps ,if you have any more questions ,please let me know
Regards
Proline

Last thing Steve
You are right over time it will have nutrient build up same as any Live rock will have in a tank .
Regards

Can we get some pics posted of the rocks so that we know what to order from Albert?

Hi Andrewsk
If you look @ the german website we have 90% of those pieces in stock ,what we don't carry much of are pieces over 3' tall.
you can also check this website ,they have many of them posted on their site with pictures .Please keep in mind those prices are USD.
We are in the process of updating our website ,there will be a product page with picture of products we carry & info about them
I hope this helps

OPPS ,here is the link:mrgreen:
http://www.captiveoceans.com/mm5/mer...egory_Code=BWP

A rock wall is fairly simple to make ... the one in this picture I made over 5 years ago ... the tank was a 330G reef and was sold with the house ( too big to take with me :wink: ) ... but to make the wall is fairly simple ... what looks like a continuous rock panel was actually 2 foot sections ( 8' tank ) ... it was covered in coraline and crawling with critters in no time just from the live rock already in the tank.

If you want projections like that of the German versions you just need to make the mold to accomodate it

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...41DSCF0121.jpg