If your talking about the thread that I posted with a funny video clip, are you just re-naming it to suit your purpose for this thread? If your talking about some other thread that was posted "americans are dumb", then my appoligies. (If I remember right it was called something like "Our nieghbours sometimes make me laugh". But since it's gone I can't quite be sure of that.)

Like I stated before, it was posted as a funny video clip and thats all it was.

But if re-naming it the "Americans are dumb" thread somehow gets you through the night, I'm happy for you. :mrgreen:

See? This is how it starts. The theme of your post became "americans are dumb", and yes, that is the one we should have deleted right away.

I realy don't care that the thread is locked or gone for that matter. What I can't understand is how you choose to rename it after it's gone. Fact remains that it was nothing more than a link to a humourous video clip. So without the clip itself being offensive, how could you possibly know that it should have been deleted in the first 2 seconds?

What the thread "Became" after the original post is not in my control.

This thread was more "not" suited for the lounge than these ones?

http://www.canreef.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14202

http://www.canreef.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14158

http://www.canreef.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13687

Oh, and let's not have any politics either. :lol:

http://www.canreef.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9993

Right, but from experience, I knew it would turn into what it did. That was the basis for it needing to be gone immediately. Essentially though, if you're not happy with our decisions, I can recommend some other boards for you....

Your correct there Gary. Thats what got it shut down, along with a couple of other peoples post before that one.

Thats likely correct, however its our job to protect their fragile psyche on a privately owned, publicly viewed aquarium board.

Gary, as I said to Steve, I personally have no idea why those threads were allowed to run. I, in my view as a moderator here, would have shut them down at the start.

However, thats always been my view on lounges on reef boards. Perhaps its wrong but its my view. As a mod here, I try to stay within the ideas of the rest of the Canreef staff and its owner. If thats wrong, then perhaps I should step down and let Canreef select another staff member.

The online scraps and people banned is huge on reef boards with not to many lounge restrictions. Its even ruined a few boards. How can people argue the usual freedom of speech line when this happens.

I have never understood why an aquarium board has to have such threads that cause hard feelings. I assume thats why most aquarium boards have strict posting rules in their lounges. If one looks at the lounge threads, there are hundreds of good ones compared to one bad one, so it obvious there is lots to chat about besides flame topics.

Does everyone think we are not savy or offended, just because we are moderators. I have been around so long, it would be hard to post something that I could not handle. :lol:

Gary, your thread may have started as an innocent joke, but as you seen, it never stayed that way. Also, most of what I,m posting here, on this thread by Steve, is a general statement and not just regarding your thread alone. {although its the one I closed, :smile: }

The point again is, as always, it leads to this. What we are doing right now. Arguing amongst ourselves on a reefing board. Now thats sad. :sad:

Ok, that's it.

I have explained once before, and I will do so again, before closing this thread.

We, as the moderators, generally have only closed threads where tempers have flared. Whether appropriate or inappropriate hasn't so much entered into the equation because, as a rule, we have generally allowed the concept of free speech.

If you had a genuine concern with any previous threads, you were free to bring up those concerns, PRIVATELY, to a moderator within a timely manner. I'm sorry but that reasonable time period is up. To bring them up now, is only serving to further antagonize and polarize the board. So drop it. Now.

And as I said before. The moderators actions are not up for public debate.

This is my final warning: Drop it. Go look at your tanks and enjoy them instead.