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kien 11-03-2009 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 460612)
That's the first time I have heard that arguement regarding tunze vs mp40... I've got a mp20 running 100% on Reef crest, 6" above my sand bed (in a 24x24x12 tank), and it doesn't stir up a single grain of sand...

I was just speculating as I have never owned an MP40. Just saw pics one of that was put too close to the sandbed once. The Mp40 is more powerful than the 20 isn't it? I wonder how close you could put that puppy to the sandbed. It would be really nice to have both and try them both out. I don't know too many people who have/had both though.. They are so expensive, you typically either have one or the other and you love them because they are so damn expensive! :-)

JDigital 11-03-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kien (Post 460622)
I was just speculating as I have never owned an MP40. Just saw pics one of that was put too close to the sandbed once. The Mp40 is more powerful than the 20 isn't it? I wonder how close you could put that puppy to the sandbed. It would be really nice to have both and try them both out. I don't know too many people who have/had both though.. They are so expensive, you typically either have one or the other and you love them because they are so damn expensive! :-)

Obviously a mp40 would be too much in a tank the size of my cube, but at only 6" off the sand with the mp20 (2000gph), I think its a good indication of what an mp40 would be like even 10-12 inches high... If it was an issue, you'd probably see alot more people complaining, rather than praising! :lol:

Delphinus 11-03-2009 07:17 PM

Well, luckily both Tunzes and Vortechs are cheap like borscht so it's easy to just buy both and try each, and just keep the one you like better, and just toss the other one in the recycling can! :lol:

(... Well, that's the way it would be if *I* were king of the universe..)

lastlight 11-03-2009 09:38 PM

Yeah I don't see the 6100s up in the rear corners as being a problem with the sand at all since everyone has those right there. It's the 6101 I have near the bottom rear that I might need to re-position.

Tank's half full. My flow test won't be for a bit yet! This wait is WORSE than the previous 1.5 yrs

lastlight 11-05-2009 06:40 AM

Water is maybe a few mm from spilling into my overflow box. Damn this is brutal haha. Have all 3 Tunze on and yeah the sand certainly gets blasted bad in a few spots. Have to wait and see if that bacterial coating on the grains thing helps me any.

Snappy 11-05-2009 07:12 AM

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I was just speculating as I have never owned an MP40. Just saw pics one of that was put too close to the sandbed once. The Mp40 is more powerful than the 20 isn't it? I wonder how close you could put that puppy to the sandbed. It would be really nice to have both and try them both out. I don't know too many people who have/had both though.. They are so expensive, you typically either have one or the other and you love them because they are so damn expensive! :-)
I have both Vortech MP40w's & Tunze's in my reef.
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Have all 3 Tunze on and yeah the sand certainly gets blasted bad in a few spots. Have to wait and see if that bacterial coating on the grains thing helps me any.
I place rubble in the high flow areas where the sand gets blown away, works well and in my opinion looks quite natural.

JDigital 11-05-2009 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lastlight (Post 461135)
Water is maybe a few mm from spilling into my overflow box. Damn this is brutal haha. Have all 3 Tunze on and yeah the sand certainly gets blasted bad in a few spots. Have to wait and see if that bacterial coating on the grains thing helps me any.

Full pics?? :mrgreen: Seeing as your "webcam" hasn't changed for days... :wink:

fishytime 11-05-2009 01:28 PM

Im also running both (mp40 and two tunze 6055s)...the combo has turned the tank into a 50/50 split of bare bottom up front and sand at the back....I like both powerheads for what each has to offer....vortech for wide flow pattern and shear power....tunzes for their point-ability

goby1 11-05-2009 01:59 PM

Very interesting and entertaining read. Congratulations on your tank Brett, it looks really great.

lastlight 11-06-2009 08:11 AM

The dust settles. Lastlight for the win! Be a while till the salt settles though!

http://www.fishbrains.net/images/build/salt1.jpg

I bought this over a year ago. It's a relief to say that so far this thing appears to foam like a BEAST.

http://www.fishbrains.net/images/build/salt2.jpg


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