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I hope you get it where you want it. I'm sure you will with Greg's help
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The only other thing that bothers me about your durso Mike is the big valve you have at the top. When I built Adams ( oxymoron ) durso all it took was a very small hole drilled into the cap to get it perfect. I cant remember what size it was but it was super small, I started with a 1/16" drill bit and worked my way up until it was bang on.
What size pipe did you use for the durso? if you cant get it balanced I will send you a new Tee, elbow and cap. All you would have to do is drill the hole. I will see if I can get Adam to take a couple pics of his durso from the side. As for the syphon break, it is really strange that what you did there isnt working. A check valve would solve the problem but I am a little stumped. Do worry about having all the water that passed through for sump going threw the skimmer. Most if not all systems are the same, not every drop of water goes threw the skimmer before it hits the DT again. |
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Fixit Scenario #1
Drain is now more adjustable after going with traditional durso drain pipe. I would guess that the valve I had on before was allowing excess air. I can raise and lower overflow levels using the gate valve.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/New...29-001-800.jpg http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/New...29-002-800.jpg 7/64" was the magic number for this one, Greg. Here is a quick video of the sump. Is this the usual flow or does it look like to much air still? It isn't that loud, just wondering if it looks like it's working properly. http://youtu.be/LO8mq6HdnpE |
Glad to here you got the Durso running a little better. It's hard to tell from the video how long the drain pipe goes into the sump but it looks to me as if the end of the pipe is angled a bit. What I have done with my drains is to keep them as straight down into the sump to within a few inches of the bottom & drill a bunch of 1/2" holes around the pipe that is under water. Doing this will help some of the air bubbles escape & decrease the turbulence of the water coming out of the drain.
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Eurobrace
Hey I was following your thread and I have a question in regards to the drain and eurobrace.
Do you find that the eurobrace gets in the way when cleaning or adjusting the pipes? I'm thinking of getting a tank which i will eurobrace but wasn't sure how that would pan out. Thanks, |
It can get a little tight, but manageable .What I did was use 1 3/4 wide bracing on the back and the side with the overflow. I have a double eurobrace on my tank, one layer all around the top and a second layer flush to the tank under first layer. I stopped the lower layer at the edge of the overflow. I will take a pic and post it if you need it.
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Progress Report
Stand is in the house..
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Stand looks awesome in it's new home
Great idea with the backwall stuff Nice lights you bought there too :mrgreen: jealous :wink: |
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Been a busy week
Finally got the tank close to home, Outside for a cleaning and for the last stage before putting iton the stand.
I saw a thread on another site that did a tile back wall and thought "what the Hell' Looked good.... gotta try it. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....51.22-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....01.49-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....51.28-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....53.01-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....52.36-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....35.48-800.jpg Weather has been amazing here so far this summer, was nice to be outside working on the tank, BUT time to get this on the stand. Had a couple guys lined up to help me get it in the house, but that didn't happen so, and in light of what happened to the last tank, I wiggled it onto a dolly and ran it in the house by myself. Broke a vase and a 2x4 but tank made ther trip intact. Thought about setting it on the stand myself but with the extra weight of the tile and the fact that I added an extra 5 1/2" to the height of the stand, thought that it would be best to wait for help. |
This is going to be interesting :smile:
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Help arrived
Finally, tank and stand together in my house....
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....20.28-800.jpg Still not 100% about the extra height on the stand, will need a workbench everytime to do any work on the tank. Try it for a while and keep thinking of all the work it will be to remove the 2 x 6. I have lots of benches kicking around from my drywalling days. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....20.13-800.jpg Version # 3 of my reactor manifold https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....21.17-800.jpg Old sump all cleaned up https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....21.06-800.jpg Plumbed and ready https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne...6.11-1-800.jpg Version #1 of my electical box. actually had to mod it once because I didn't measure how big the Radion Ballasts were and had to add 3/4" to the depth. Used an old American DJ switch box from work for all those things I want to be able to turn off and on all the time. Have one GFI plug plugged to the wall and one GFI on a battery backup for one pump and a heater for the once a month power outage. Still have plenty of space for a controller EB8 in the box and even a few more boxes if needed. Ran the pump controller to the front with the switches also. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne...7.38-2-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....07.12-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....18.33-800.jpg |
An old piece of airline or other hose, slit length-wise and stuffed over that broken glass, may be a friend one day :wink:
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Wet but not Salty
Time for the leak test. Pumped in all my stored RO/DI. There were buckets and pumps everywhere on my deck :twised: Ran 3/4" line through living room window and let er Buck. Filled in less than an hour.
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New toys
My buddy the mailman has been like family lately, almost everyday he drops off little things for me and for another tank I'm doing for a guy here in Yellowknife.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....18.03-800.jpg A Sicce Voyager 7 and a Sicce Voyager 4. EVER BIG .:shocked: The 7 is quite big, but ever so quiet also. Another plus was the fact that the magnet held through the glass and tile on both pumps. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....18.18-800.jpg The 7 pushs 2800 GPH and the 4 1600. so a good start to my flow needs. |
Wow, with that big new pump you have, you still can't get the overflow running wide open ... this is good as you will not have to ever worry about your overflow being overwhelmed
Nothing wrong with that As we discussed with Grizz, you only need 6 or 7 times sump turn-over/hour No point in running a larger pump for now. Get the system running and worry about it later I know, you don't like the gate being so 'closed-off' I agree with your concern about it plugging up, but that can't happen if you cover the top of your overflow with a sheet of acrylic Only the snails that grow in the box ... the ones that went through the teeth ... will ever get big enough to plug up the gate Plus, the velocity of water passing through such a small opening will most likely keep it clear You can also, once a month or whenever, open the gate full blast and flush it out I found a snail in my chaeto drain this way ... popped right out :smile: I'll sit back now while you keep adding pics ..... |
SALTY
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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....22.07-800.jpg :bananahuge: After more than a year in the making, I now have the beginnings of a reef tank in my living room. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....22.19-800.jpg |
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Lights
I just realized that I have been subjecting anyone looking in to a lot of really blue pics. My lights have been sitting there and not really programmed. I will get on that tomorrow for some more natural coloration.
But till then, here are the last of the blue pics. Maybe. for now. Brought out all the buckets, jugs, rubbermaids, and garbage cans and drained most of my day old salt water and started my least favorite part of this tank. If I could pay someone to aquascape the tank, I WOULD. :neutral: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....36.59-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....50.04-800.jpg Added about 50 lbs of Special grade reef sand. Have over 2" of sand and thinking that it's alot :biggrin: See how that goes. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....40.26-800.jpg Total time for draining tank, aquascape, and returning water. 4 Hours. I know it shows, not totally happy with it. Would have been nice to have a better selection of rock to work with but...... https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....42.06-800.jpg So far the only problem is my skimmer. Having an overflow problem with it. Took it apart and cleaned it up. Raised it up about an 1 1/2" . Seemed to help and then as I was leaving for work it was spewing skimmate out the lid again. Unplugged it and will play tomorrow. Thats it for now. Wow , just noticed that it's almost quitting time. A nice productive night all around ... |
I'd suggest you turn off your pumps for a few hours while the sand settles, so you don't sand-blast your impellers :wink:
I changed socks for over 12 hours after I added sand, and I hate to think what I did to my return pump Skimmer may be spewing due to the LR being out of water for a bit, or the oils from your arms and such Once the sand settles, turn you skimmer back on and let it overflow for a bit to get rid of any oils you may have left behind ... just a thought |
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A Week in
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This was right after the sand settled, Deep sand bed. LOL Dumped in the box of Prodibio Startup and waited 2 days. Added first goodie. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....39.38-800.jpg SWC 160 cone wouldn't stop with the major micro bubbles, so I switched in an old skimmer. Same results. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....40.04-800.jpg Put SWC back in and let it run for awhile and it stopped producing so many bubbles. At least none that were making it to the DT. But it is sensitive, any little disturbance and the bubbles start to flow through entire system. Not sure if its to much flow through the sump or another flaw in design but I will keep playing till it works better. Bubble trap doesn't seem to be doing it's job though. This is a bubble storm picture after disturbing skimmer. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....47.02-800.jpg This is non bubble storm. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....40.20-800.jpg Starting to like the aquascape a bit more . Side view.. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....40.53-800.jpg Good turbulence on top Sicce moves lots of water. |
It's alive..... ALIVE...... Looking good mang..... I used "start" too..... I thought I was really putting a lot a faith in a bottle (I added six fish after moving a ton of rock) and the product seems to do as advertised
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the tile looks cool mike! a very different approach, but I like it, bonus parts include, it will look even better with coralline, and I'm sure mounting coral to it would be very easy lol, looking good!
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Time for an update
Wow, did not realize that it had been this long. Lots of changes to the tank in the last few months.
After a few weeks all tests said that it was time to put some goodies in the tank. First package came courtesy of Carrera75. Mostly Acans, lots of Zoas and some Pipe Organ corals. Sorry but still using Iphone, so the pics aren't that great. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....18.21-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....18.35-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....18.15-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....15.23-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....19.13-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....30.37-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....31.28-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....31.36-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....32.00-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....32.18-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....32.24-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne....33.15-800.jpg https://dl.dropbox.com/u/18798128/Ne...6.40-2-800.jpg After a week I Had a outbreak of Hair algae. Called J&L and ordered a bigger CUC and a couple of grazer fish. A Two Spot Tang and a Starry Blenny. All I can say is "WOW" . They Made short work of the Algae. Unfortunately, my fish pics with the Iphone are even harder to see than the coral pics. Although there are no pics to prove it,Trust me I bought fish. |
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