lol, I was just thinking the same thing :)

We are just trying to keep you from locking the thread. :lol:

9 pages, and this thread is still open... Congrats!

I'm not gonna lock it, I give up caring. If anyone wants to give Burc money, go for it. :)

Well stated!

actually I'm not. Since being in the Federal Public Service, I'm Federally Regulated under the CLC.

who we are and what we get plus a couple more under the Collective Agreement

Enough of family day... it's a weak reason for a holiday at best. What eats at me about Remembrance Day is the fact that it's not a statutory for everyone coast to coast. That should change.

OH FOR SURE!!! Totally agree with this point, more and more it seems to me that people are forgetting what Rememberance Day is all about.

I guess it will all depend who you work for, in most cases, the employee will be entitled to the day. I have found many employers don't recognize many days that should be recognized. A very good example is one employer I had would not give Rememberance Day... Now that being said, I was entitled, and finally proved it to them. I guess the problem is many employers don't know, and many employees don't either.

Now back to the thread topic... Has your frags arrived yet?

Nope, a couple of pages back there I mentioned that they wouldn't be coming until next Monday. Got lost in the holiday shuffle, I guess! :lol:

The previews are over is the show starting? :pop2:

Good one! I just got an email from him what he had sent the frags by Fedex (?) and the tracking info indicates that they would arrive tomorrow. Is this normal? IT would seem to me that there is a high likelihood of mortality with overnight shipping. I've only ever seen shipping by Air Canada or WestJet, has anyone here had any experience with corals shipped by Fedex? Also, and this is the funniest part, they're predicting a stormy day for us here tomorrow so it probably won't get here anyway!

Coral by fedex..... Idk how anyone else feels (and for the record I know zip about shipping) but 2 days in a bag cannot be a good thing so I predict 50% DOA

I had an old shipping box laying around from about a year ago and he did use Fedex. All the carriers would most likely be overnight, If he puts in enough heat packs you should be fine.

overnight is fine as long as its packaged properly and you get the package on time.

smart thing to do is check weather paterns before shipping......

I guess I figured it would take more then a night by truck

Oh I'm think'in they would fly it there....Fedex fleet of aircraft, 670 ..... Air Canada/ Jazz .....325

Yes, he emailed me back to say that it is normal and he put in lots of heat packs. Crossing my fingers for now!

See that's how much I know about shipping I thought fedex only had ground service

Fedex overnight is just the next step below air delivery.

In both cases heat packs would still be used. They'd just put more in if using Fedex.

its fine they spend more time then that coming here to this country in most times less than ideal conditions, in an ideal box he would have a box with a styrofoam cooler and in each cooler would be bags with water mostly filled and the frag should be mounted on styrofoam and elasticked to the frag to keep it from getting dry if the package tips and to keep it from bouncing around....lps would be different or any big pieces of coral. they should have heat packs enough for 48 hrs


a little word of advice is to take a thermometer and refracometer or hydrometer with you and get the readings on video for the sainity and temp....take pics and a video of the package immediately soon as you get it
:):) cheers:)

with fragalot your lucky the frags are mounted...(sps) most are broke off thrown in a bag and sent. heat packs... came warm sometimes. if you know the time the plane arrives to the airport be there to pick it up before they put it on a truck to bounce around to your home. burc packages the frags well.. just iffy if the heatpacks last long enough or how they where fragged before shipping.

on a side note i am impressed with another company i have tried and thier 10$ frags from the same side of the country.

Is that Oceans Direct that you are speaking of Jeff?

Good advice; unfortunately I won't be available to go pick it up so someone else will be in my stead, I doubt he will go through the effort, but it's a good thought!

Yes that would be the one hoping to post pics soon. Possibly ordering again soon....

When's the last time you ordered from Ocean's direct? It seems the web site isn't updated:(

The best thing to do with them is to e-mail them to see if they have what you want in stock. I have had some recent communication with them and they are fast to reply.

I did an oceans direct order a few weeks ago. The frags were nice sized, but they shipped them without heat packs. The weather that day in the origin city was really cold.. Minus something. Pretty much everything rotted, and the few that do look like they will live lost over half of their polyps.

Three or four of the frags were out of stock and were not shipped, the only way I knew this was a notice from Paypal refunding me some money. OD never bothered to tell me these were not in stock and I still don't know which ones I got and which ones I didn't, as none of the bags were labeled, and the paypal refund just said "four frags out of stock".

I sent them an email voicing my displeasure, and much to my surprise my total charge was refunded.. INCLUDING SHIPPING!:

IMO they made an honest mistake and didn't put heat packs in, and gave me no arguments about a refund.. Cash refund at that.. Not just a credit for future order. that's really Right On!

That is true customer service for sure.

yes email first. i got great specimins of what i wanted but they did substitute one thing to my favour..... just got the shipment friday thanks to a friend whom urged me to go in with him

i dont want to cause anything by talking about a non sponsor i did urge them to contact canreef and saskreef.. for a buisness boost see what happens. if you have questions pm me

Thread is traveling a bit off topic again...

Sorry Brad, we will try to get it back on track :twised:

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What time is it in Newfoundland... Geez we have to be getting close!!!

Haha, this is hilarious! It's like Christmas for little kids or something :lol:

Well, I was just talking to my buddy who received the order today. He has everything in his tank right now and said they are looking very healthy and colorful. I haven't seen them yet, so I can't verify how they look compared to the ads. I'll update again when I see them. He said they were well packed and still warm when he received them and seemed quite happy. It was also a storm day here so that's unusual in itself.

However......

There were only 28 frags present and we ordered 38! Also, if you remember, this was supposed to be shipped to us last week and we were told that "extras would be thrown in" to make up for the late shipping. I'm not sure what's going on - I'll have to email him to get the skinny.

On the other hand, do you think it's good etiquette for me to post about this on a public forum before even communicating with him? I just realized that may not be cool.... what do you guys think?

Facts are facts, you never got an email of the shortage.... Posting his reply would be fair. Getting it straightened out may have you drink'en screech before you know it.

So, now that I've had a chance to look at them, I'll give you my impressions:

1. ordered 38, received 29
2. frags are very small
3. most are healthy
4. although 1 piece dead and probably 2 more to follow by tomorrow morning
5. very poor colors on the sps
6. show evidence of classic "hack n' pack", frags just chopped and glued
7. apparently were packed quite good, though....
8. several frags off the plugs, couple broke in half

I have emailed him about the situation and we'll see what he says. Overall, I'm not horribly disappointed because it's about what I was expecting, actually maybe a bit better based on what I have been hearing/reading about it on here.

Well hopefully he will resolve the situation properly.

Well our order is now delayed till next week as not all frags are in stock. So let's hope and see how ours turn up. I'm not expecting miracles and I know what we are in for. Glad you got some good stuff in their.

Just noticed that what was called multicolored star polyps on the site and looked an amazing purple and green was substituted for a very unhealthy looking pipe organ. We ordered two frags of it. I would NEVER order a frag of pipe organ - a whole colony has a terrible survival rate, much less a small cleaved frag. There were a few substitutions like that and the frustrating thing was that I specifically emailed him about the availability of the frags we wanted the night before making the order and he said everything was available, so what's with the substitutions?

I went over to Paul's yesterday to see what he received, but obviously they hadn't arrived yet. I ended up working late tonight, and have plans tomorrow, so the earliest I'll get over is Thursday... Hopefully there is something left!

NLReefguy, were there many zoanthids in the order?

Not to disagree with what you're saying, I just wanted to add that I've had a three polyp 'semi-frag' of pipe organ, given to me for free, grow into a ~6" sphere before I broke it up.