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Wow Laurie it has been really rough for you, if nothing else it has made me reconsider
having a q.t. tank. I agree with you on the pita thinking as I to have lost many fish in q.t. that may have made it otherwise. I for one am glad you posted and am pleased that you did not get the flack some have on here....it is been an eyeopener for a few people I am sure. And you probably saved a lot of people this horrible experience. Thank you for sharing with us and we can all learn to do better. Hoping everyone left recouvers quickly. I know when I lost a bunch of fish once, I felt like throwing in the towel I was so upset. It will just take time.....thinking of you!!! It will get better! Leah |
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I totally agree, as long as you can keep him eating and he's fairly active, he will heal up just fine :biggrin: |
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I'd like to think that I didn't get much flack because everybody loves me :mrgreen: But seriously I believe it's more so because I was willing to admit to how dumb I was (so there was no need to point it out) That I've learned from my mistakes and will QT from now on (so no lectures on that needed) and that no matter how bad a person screws up no one deserves to go through what I've been going though. |
[quote=fishoholic;414711]Thank-you Leah.
I'd like to think that I didn't get much flack because everybody loves me :mrgreen: Yes, Laurie we all love you. |
Tangs are tough and heal quickly. I think Scarface would be a good name for him, especially sue to the happy nature of Sohal tangs in general:wink: I think you should name all the fish now... since they all have a story to tell.
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Unless there is some evidence of a parasite on the skin of the fish you should stop using copper treatments and remove the residue with charcoal.
The skin is exposed and therefor the fish is very susceptible to opportunistic fungal and bacterial infections. I would recommend that you use a neomycin based saltwater anti-bacteria medication. Follow the dosage recommendations carefully. Wayne |
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Laurie, it is advised to run the Cupramine treatment for 14 days. IMO the risk of stopping treatment too early and having the disease come back is too great. Instructions on the bottle say 14 days, so that is what I did. |
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So for some reason I can't find my cleaner wrasse anywhere. He was healthy looking swimming around lots and eating well Friday night. I think I saw him Sat. morning (but I'm not 100% sure) but since Sat. night I can't see him anywhere in the QT tank. I looked all around the QT tank in case he jumped out but I didn't find his body outside of the tank and I don't see his body inside of the tank.
Either he's hiding really really well (not sure how I couldn't see him since there isn't many hiding spots in QT) or he died and the other fish ate him leaving no evidence behind (which is hard to believe that there wouldn't be some pieces of his body left to find since there in a fairly empty QT tank) or he did jump and I just can't see his body anywhere :sad: Wish I knew where he is :sad: *edit* I found the cleaner wrasse inside of the heater cover (dead and stuck to the heater) the heater cover was put on the heater to protect the fish from burns, not to create an sleeping inferno for my wrasse to die in :cry: |
You have animals so the body could be anywhere. I had a clown jump once and found the body upstairs. The cat had taken it up there.
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If you can't find him my best guess is that he jumped out... I had a couple cleaner wrasses jump out and when they dry out, they are very tiny. Could be stuck under your sock and you would never know it.
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OOOooooooo geeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhh..... I feel bad I moved away, this happens and wasn't there for you girl. *SUPER HUGS* to you and Steve.
This is always the turning point in the hobby and an eye opener for all about QT. You guys were having a good run too. I was worried it was going to catch up to you. I'm so sorry it did. Been there in the past too. It’s a very hurtful experience I would never wish on anyone. *Super hugs* for all the pain you have been going through. I think its GREAT that you posted your experience. Give yourself a pat on that back cause your gonna get through this. __________________________________________________ __________________________ K... lets get to the treatment... You did the best thing with treating with Cupermine. It’s the more stable copper treatment (if dosed & tested regularly) in my experiences. Make sure the treatment tank is dark? No, seriously... make sure it is. Besides light helps the parasite swim to light, find fish (host). The parasite doesn't die until it directly fall off the host into the copper water. Another reason to keep the lights off is this will also calm the fish, ease stress from crowding in a QT tank. Where they’re used to having a big tank. ***You were asking about the open wounds. There are two really good treatments... Melafix can be treated with saltwater and works GREAT! And fast! I am a big fan of more natural treatments and this is one of them. Example... I had a porcupine puffer (scaleless fish - which are very sensitive to any treatment) He was small and got sucked up into the powerhead. His gill and side of head was ripped open. I thought for sure he was a goner. I was so upset. I put him in a QT Tank and treated with Melafix. After two weeks, his blood red wound was healing. Let me look to see if I still have pictures I can show you how bad shape he was in. He made a complete recovery, which was amazing to me. He was a strong bugger and that is the puffer you met and had for a bit before the transfer. When you treat with Melafix in your QT tank it will fill with the aroma of vicks! Melafix will color your tank a bit yellow, but it works great. Another med to use is SeaChem Kanaplex (kanamycin based) is a good treatment for infections. It also works well and can even be soaked in the food to administer. You can pick up a small tube of that at A.I or Big Al's for like $10 bucks. Make sure not to treat with any of these until the copper treatment is completely done and tested gone. Make sure there is no more remaining copper in the QT tank before starting other treatments. I think in your case, because of the open wounds, Melafix would be your best option. Best of luck to all the survivors. You will pull through this disaster. I promise. *superhugs* |
Thanks Lee. There is no marine light above the QT tank. The tank is our old sump the 110g 6' long tank and it's tucked in the crawl space by the steps. There is a fluorescent light off to the side and somewhat above it, but I only turn that on to wake them up to eat and then I turn it back off again.
After the cupermine treatment the plan is to set up a 90g with LR from a friends tank or buy LR from a tank tear down and put the fish in there for the remaining QT time. It's at that time that I want to use melafix to treat the sohal with. Thanks for the hugs and advice, I apperciate it. |
It's been 10 weeks since the fish started the QT process, so time for an update. The fish have been back in the displays for 2 weeks now and there is no sign of disease.
Here is a link to those who did not make it :cry: http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/i...view=slideshow Just before 8 weeks were up I put the reef fish (checkerboard wrasse, 2 chromis, CBB, & sohal tang) back (they were getting beat up badly by my king angel and lunare wrasse) needless to say their nips/wounds are mostly healed and they are much happier now. While this was happening (these new fish were spread out over the past month) we bought and QT'd some new fish (2 skunk clowns, mandarin goby, tail spot blenny, blonde naso tang, blue ring angel & imperator angel) as well as we got some fish (yellow watchman goby, regal tang, foxface, 2 clownfish, starki damsel and pistol shrimp) given to us for free from a fellow canreef member G1GY (Gary) which ended up in a fruitful trip to Calgary where we bought a miniatus grouper, pyramid butterfly and a bicolour parrotfish. These fish are finished QT and I split them up into their proper tanks and after I let them settle in for a few days I put the king angel, lunare wrasse and bursa trigger back. I'm happy to say that for the most part everyone is getting along. My checkerboard does chase my YWG (yellow watchman goby) but for the most part the YWG hides really well and the checkerboard leaves him alone. My King angel passively chases my Imperator and Blue ring around but for the most part he leaves them alone. The odd thing is that my somewhat shy (hides whenever I get to close to the tank) miniatus grouper seems to hate my lunare wrasse. He chases and I guess nips at the lunare since the lunare has some nipped fins, but it doesn't seem like he wants to eat him (the lunare's pretty big so I'm not sure the grouper would try to) it just seems like he can't stand him, but I have no clue as to why. Guess the lunare now knows how the checkerboard felt, however if it gets to bad I'll probably sell the lunare, if I can catch him. Here's pictures of the reef fish (minus the YWG and the pistol shrimp who are to good at hiding right now to get a pic. of) http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/i...view=slideshow Here's pictures of the FOWLR fish http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/i...view=slideshow I will get full tank shots later on when the lights come on, and I will update my signature as well. |
great to hear you're back up and everything is healthy
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I also thought I'd pay special tribute to my sohal tang who went through hell and back again in order to pull through and survive, he is a true trooper.
Before velvet [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...l/DSC_1166.jpg[/IMG] During copper treatment (what the velvet did to him :cry:) [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...l/DSC_1312.jpg[/IMG] The after math, all healed up but scared for life with a bumpy forehead and no top lip :sad: but at least he made it [IMG]http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...l/DSC_1338.jpg[/IMG] |
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That picture is brutal glad, he is recovering I would not have thought it possible.
So glad things are better, can't wait to see more pictures of the new fish. |
Laurie, I'm so glad everything is back on track. Good Job! Funny thing about how your Grouper hates the Lunare Wrasse. My Tuskfish hates the Lunare in my tank. Could care less about the other fishes, but spends most of his day trying to catch the Lunare.
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that is great laurie great talking with you last night too good to see that you are on your way....
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Ya know I was just sitting on the couch and I looked over and saw my fowlr tank and as I watched the fish swimming around, it dawned on me how much has happened since the start of all this. I can't even begin to explain how wonderful it is to look over and see fish in my tank. It sat empty for so long, and so much horribleness happened, that it truly is wonderful to know good things happened towards the end, and that I didn't loose all my fish. A simple thing of just being able to look over and see fish swimming around and thriving is a beautiful sight.
Thank-you again to everyone who took this journey with me and supported me with kind words along the way. |
:thumb::thumb: Two thumbs up, Laurie!
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