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JDigital 02-03-2009 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 382428)
Thanks. Yup, just the one.

Could you do a school/shoal of those in a 225? That would be sweeeet :mrgreen:

Lance 02-03-2009 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JDigital (Post 383883)
Could you do a school/shoal of those in a 225? That would be sweeeet :mrgreen:

You know, I thought about that. A half dozen of them would look pretty damn nice! But there are so many other really cool fish out there and I need the space to fit them all ::lol:

GreenSpottedPuffer 02-03-2009 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 383894)
You know, I thought about that. A half dozen of them would look pretty damn nice! But there are so many other really cool fish out there and I need the space to fit them all ::lol:

Meh...Bannerfish get big and ugly. I would stick to one personally.


Your tank is looking great! I love the rockwork. Very nice for coral placement.

Lance 02-10-2009 04:20 AM

My Latest Acquisition
 
Got a nice Chocolate Mimic Tang from Ocean Aquatics today (thanks Wendell and Jim). He's about 6" and still has some of his juvenile colouring. Very pretty fish. Wife wants to call him "Cocoa" the Chocolate Tang.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_2854.jpg

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_2853.jpg

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_2846.jpg

He's in QT for awhile, which is a bit of a dilemma. The QT is only 20 gallons and I have an Aussie Tuskfish coming Thursday from J&L. I don't think it's too wise to put two 5+ inch fish in such a small tank. (The QT is a permanent set-up with sand, live rock, skimmer, etc.) I might have to bite the bullet on this one and put the Tuskfish directly into the display. They are hardier and less apt to catch something than are Tangs. Any suggestions?



Another pic of my little algae-eating LM Blenny. Look how fat his belly is from all the H.A. he's been eating.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_2866.jpg

fishytime 02-10-2009 04:42 AM

Very nice tang! I dont believe I ever saw a lawnmower blenny that wasnt obese:lol: As far as the qt....if the tang looks good when you get the tusk I would put the tang in the display as the 20 qt tank is more of a stress itself to a tang.

Mrfish55 02-10-2009 05:10 AM

Nice pic of the lawnmower, he looks a little upset at the lack of lawn to mow though.

Rbacchiega 02-10-2009 06:24 AM

FWIW, your Blenny's name is now Gus Tubberton

Lance 02-10-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rbacchiega (Post 386331)
FWIW, your Blenny's name is now Gus Tubberton


That's better than what I call him: "Fat Ass Fish".

Lance 02-10-2009 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fishytime (Post 386314)
Very nice tang! I dont believe I ever saw a lawnmower blenny that wasnt obese:lol: As far as the qt....if the tang looks good when you get the tusk I would put the tang in the display as the 20 qt tank is more of a stress itself to a tang.

You're right, a 20 gal tank is no place for a tang, but the idea of putting a Tang into a tank full of fish without being quarantined first scares the crap out of me. Tangs and Butterflies are at the top of the ich-magnet list.
Going into a new tank, with strange fish is stressful too; whether as much as being in a 20 gal tank, I don't know. Any other thoughts on this?

andestang 02-10-2009 11:22 PM

Tank is looking good. Glad your winning with the HA. How are your peppermints doing with your Falco ?

JDigital 02-10-2009 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 386570)
You're right, a 20 gal tank is no place for a tang, but the idea of putting a Tang into a tank full of fish without being quarantined first scares the crap out of me. Tangs and Butterflies are at the top of the ich-magnet list.
Going into a new tank, with strange fish is stressful too; whether as much as being in a 20 gal tank, I don't know. Any other thoughts on this?


I dunno, I added a copperband butterfly to my 75G, and he settled it pretty quick. I don't believe in QTing, everytime you have to catch the fish, I believe that adds more stress (plus ANOTHER move) than just adding them to the display in the first place.

I think with 225G of space, a tang could settle in fairly well.

Lance 02-10-2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by andestang (Post 386582)
Tank is looking good. Glad your winning with the HA. How are your peppermints doing with your Falco ?

Thanks. Peppermints aren't in the display; they're in the fuge. 'Cuz if the Falco didn't get them the newly arriving Tuskfish surely would.

BlueAbyss 02-11-2009 01:34 AM

Lookin good :biggrin: That tang is beautiful.

Lance 02-13-2009 03:56 AM

My New Pride & Joy
 
I spent too much money on this guy, but he's worth every cent. My new Aussie Harlequin Tuskfish.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_2986.jpg


He's about 6" long and already cruising the tank and eating. The other fish were a little freaked for awhile, but have since calmed down. He's not bothering anything so far; has left the snails alone. No shrimp in this tank, keep them in the sump.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_2999.jpg


Unbelievably colourful. He is definitely the showpiece fish in this tank. Look at those teeth.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_2992.jpg

Mrfish55 02-13-2009 04:15 AM

Cool, I may just have to set up my 180 so I can keep pace with you! The wife really wants an Emperor Angel so that should be an easy sell:lol: Any more additions planned or is this going to be it for livestock?

Lance 02-13-2009 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrfish55 (Post 387557)
Cool, I may just have to set up my 180 so I can keep pace with you! The wife really wants an Emperor Angel so that should be an easy sell:lol: Any more additions planned or is this going to be it for livestock?

After I move the Coral Beauty and SF Tang from the 90g over and the Chocolate Tang from QT, that's it for awhile.

Lance 02-16-2009 09:34 PM

Uh-Oh!
 
Dammit! :censored: I knew I was looking for trouble and I found it. My new Harlequin Tuskfish has Ich and he's in the main tank.

I had been looking for an Aussie Tuskfish and a Chocolate Tang, and had put the word out to several suppliers. As luck would have it, two different suppliers came up with the two fish within days of each other. I didn't want to quarantine two large fish in a 20 gal QT at the same time, (figured that was asking for trouble) so I decided to put the Tang in the QT and the Tusker in the display. I was uncomfortable with this as I always quarantine new fish but Tuskfish are supposedly quite hardy, and I thought it was the better choice of the two, as Tangs are such Ich magnets. He looked great, nice colour, fat and healthy with no signs of disease. So now I have a $200 fish with Ich in my tank! In hindsight, I should have turned down one of the fish but I felt guilty refusing one after they brought them in specially for me.

There's far too many fish to remove and quarantine. I've just done a 25% water change and siphoned most of the substrate out. I'll run a diatom frequently and up the dosage of garlic and Selcon. He only has a few spots on him and none of the other fish show signs yet. Hopefully I get through this without any casualties and just live with Ich in the tank. What do you guys with large tanks and lots of fish do when Ich appears? I could hook-up a UV sterlizer I guess. If worst comes to worst and the Ich becomes a real problem I'll have to buy a larger QT and remove all the fish. Suggestions? Anything else I can do?

Skimmerking 02-16-2009 09:44 PM

I would just run the garlic like crazy and not suck out the sand Lance. Its there to late you will have to deal with it now man.. lay the garlic to the food like crazy. your skimmer wont like it but hey oh well

Lance 02-16-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus (Post 388858)
I would just run the garlic like crazy and not suck out the sand Lance. Its there to late you will have to deal with it now man.. lay the garlic to the food like crazy. your skimmer wont like it but hey oh well

Most of the substrate is already gone. There was very little anyway. I figured with no sand the little buggers may be easier to siphon out with the diatom filter.

GreenSpottedPuffer 02-16-2009 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 388854)
Dammit! :censored: I knew I was looking for trouble and I found it. My new Harlequin Tuskfish has Ich and he's in the main tank.

I had been looking for an Aussie Tuskfish and a Chocolate Tang, and had put the word out to several suppliers. As luck would have it, two different suppliers came up with the two fish within days of each other. I didn't want to quarantine two large fish in a 20 gal QT at the same time, (figured that was asking for trouble) so I decided to put the Tang in the QT and the Tusker in the display. I was uncomfortable with this as I always quarantine new fish but Tuskfish are supposedly quite hardy, and I thought it was the better choice of the two, as Tangs are such Ich magnets. He looked great, nice colour, fat and healthy with no signs of disease. So now I have a $200 fish with Ich in my tank! In hindsight, I should have turned down one of the fish but I felt guilty refusing one after they brought them in specially for me.

There's far too many fish to remove and quarantine. I've just done a 25% water change and siphoned most of the substrate out. I'll run a diatom frequently and up the dosage of garlic and Selcon. He only has a few spots on him and none of the other fish show signs yet. Hopefully I get through this without any casualties and just live with Ich in the tank. What do you guys with large tanks and lots of fish do when Ich appears? I could hook-up a UV sterlizer I guess. If worst comes to worst and the Ich becomes a real problem I'll have to buy a larger QT and remove all the fish. Suggestions? Anything else I can do?



Live with it. Healthy fish will not die of ich. I know so many people now with large tanks, many large fish and most have ich in the tank. I have had ich in my tanks for years now and never lost a fish excpet in QT.

My Tusk still has some ich but long as he is eating, not rubbing and acting normal, he is fine.

You will notice break outs will become less and less severe as time goes on. Eventually they just kind of show up for a day or two here and there.

I think your on the right track though. I would try to get the tank stocked relatively soon and then do not add more fish. Just let them deal with the ich thats there. If you keep adding fish, you will generally see flare ups each time the new guy goes in.

Good luck!

Lance 02-16-2009 10:39 PM

[quote=GreenSpottedPuffer;388880]Live with it. Healthy fish will not die of ich. I know so many people now with large tanks, many large fish and most have ich in the tank. I have had ich in my tanks for years now and never lost a fish excpet in QT.

My Tusk still has some ich but long as he is eating, not rubbing and acting normal, he is fine.

You will notice break outs will become less and less severe as time goes on. Eventually they just kind of show up for a day or two here and there.

I think your on the right track though. I would try to get the tank stocked relatively soon and then do not add more fish. Just let them deal with the ich thats there. If you keep adding fish, you will generally see flare ups each time the new guy goes in.


I know this and I agree. But when i saw the Ich on my new $200 fish I kinda panicked. IMO new tanks and Ich go hand in hand. When I set up the 90g over a year ago I had small outbreaks of Ich for the first few months. Never lost a fish. I haven't seen any signs of it for at least 6 months now. I'll just keep doing what I'm doing: feeding twice a day and using garlic and Selcon like I always do. The Tusk is eating well and aside from the few spots on him looks to be in great health. I've been feeding him clam meat, mussels and mysis. He's a little smaller than yours I think; about 5.5" Anyway, thanks for the advice.

Mrfish55 02-16-2009 10:41 PM

Need a hand with anything let me know, I do have a 30 gal quarantine up and running right now if you manage to catch him. Might also have some reef safe ich meds around somewhere.

Lance 02-16-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrfish55 (Post 388886)
Need a hand with anything let me know, I do have a 30 gal quarantine up and running right now if you manage to catch him. Might also have some reef safe ich meds around somewhere.

I think catching him would just stress him. He's doing fine and the Ich is in the system anyway. I'll just hold tight and see how it goes. Thanks

Lance 02-22-2009 03:30 AM

Update
 
So, Sydney the Aussie Tuskfish is looking much better. He's shaken off the Ich and doing well. I've been feeding him mysis, clams, shrimp, and scallops soaked in garlic and Selcon. Dave lent me a honkin' big 25 watt UV sterilizer. All fish look clean.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_3074.jpg

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_3065.jpg




Ever see 12 Chromis disappear in a flash. When the Tusker went in the tank the chromis were gone in a blink of an eye. I couldn't see one anywhere. They figured they were dinner for sure! No worries though, he totally ignores them and everyone else. At feeding time though, one of those stupid little Chromis is going to get its head bitten off if they don't learn to leave his clam meat alone.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_3077.jpg

Lance 02-22-2009 03:43 AM

A couple of new corals I got from Oceanic.



A Yellow Tipped Torch Coral. Good size frag and good price too.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_3064.jpg


And a Bloody Mary Micromussa. It's much brighter than it looks in this pic. The Coralife MH that came with this fixture are terrible: They've definitely got to go. I think I'll replace them with Phoenix 14K.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_3075.jpg



And a FTS for good measure. The Hair Algae is nearly gone now and Corraline is already starting to grow.

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...k/IMG_3060.jpg

Mrfish55 02-22-2009 04:32 AM

My bloody mary looks better than yours, maybe I should bring you yours and take mine:biggrin: Nice to see the tusk recovering, tank looks good.

Rbacchiega 02-22-2009 04:41 AM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw his name is Sydney!

Tanks is looking great though Lance. Can't wait to see it a year from now when everything is filling in

Lance 02-22-2009 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrfish55 (Post 391182)
My bloody mary looks better than yours, maybe I should bring you yours and take mine:biggrin: Nice to see the tusk recovering, tank looks good.

Nah, you keep that one. You did all the work. Besides, if it's that much better I'll just come and get a frag in a couple of months. :fencing:

marie 02-22-2009 04:44 AM

We used to have a mamoth jack mule named sydney, he was a terrorist in disguise with a wicked sense of humour. I hope for your sake it wasn't the name :razz:

Lance 02-22-2009 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rbacchiega (Post 391188)
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw his name is Sydney!

Tanks is looking great though Lance. Can't wait to see it a year from now when everything is filling in



The wife feels the need to name every single fish.

She hasn't got round to the 12 Chromis yet though. (Alan, Bill, Carl, Dean, Edward, Freddie,..............:der:

Lance 02-22-2009 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 391192)
We used to have a mamoth jack mule named sydney, he was a terrorist in disguise with a wicked sense of humour. I hope for your sake it wasn't the name :razz:

Me too. A jack is a stallion mule, right?

marie 02-22-2009 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 391196)
Me too. A jack is a stallion mule, right?

Or donkey

Lance 02-22-2009 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marie (Post 391192)
We used to have a mamoth jack mule named sydney, he was a terrorist in disguise with a wicked sense of humour. I hope for your sake it wasn't the name :razz:


So he pretty much made an ass of himself!

marie 02-22-2009 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance (Post 391207)
So he pretty much made an ass of himself!

Most of the time he made an ass of every one around him just ask Brian (the vet) :lol:

Lance 02-22-2009 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by marie (Post 391224)
Most of the time he made an ass of every one around him just ask Brian (the vet) :lol:

I know Brian. He looks after all our pets. Even "Beevis" the "Pet from Hell" 5 foot iguana we used to have. I hated that thing!

Rbacchiega 02-22-2009 06:24 AM

*gasp* How can anyone hate an Iguana. My two (both Reds) are sweethearts. They're in bed now, but when I'm home during the day they get free range. except for in the sulcata room

Okay, Hijack over

Delphinus 02-22-2009 06:33 AM

Sorry for the additional hijack but I was all "what is a sulcata" and so I googled it and .. well, I just had to share the image that came up in result #3:

http://www.google.ca/images?q=tbn:n3...a_breeding.JPG
Well! I guess that answers my question. I'll stop hijacking now..

Lance 02-22-2009 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rbacchiega (Post 391237)
*gasp* How can anyone hate an Iguana. My two (both Reds) are sweethearts. They're in bed now, but when I'm home during the day they get free range. except for in the sulcata room

Okay, Hijack over

That thing was horrible! It was a good pet until it laid a huge clutch of eggs, (do lizards lay clutches?), then it turned into the Satan Reptile. It would attack anybody and anything. I had built it a 6' high by 4'x4' glass and plywood home with a large dead tree limb to climb on. When anyone came near it's home it would launch itself at them and smack into the glass. We couldn't let it out anymore because it would chase and bite anything in its path. Not to mention the whipping with its tail. Not a nice girl.
PS: What is a sulcata room?

Rbacchiega 02-22-2009 03:07 PM

hahaha great pic Tony. Mine won't be doing that yet, they're not old enough but the noises Tortoises make when they do it is hilarious.

I have two Sulcata tortoises. A Male (Fonzworth Bently) and a female (Petunia). Fonzworth is about 18" right now and Petunia is close behind him (around 14"). But they are a fairly active tortoise, so they need lots of room. Not to mention that males can get up to 3 feet and weigh over 200 lbs. So, I pretty much made a room into a giant cage for them. Heat bulbs are hung (similar to the way we hang our reef lights, but the tort lights are spotlamps) lots of dirt/sand mixture big ledges/rocks they can burrow under etc.

Lance 02-22-2009 04:37 PM

[quote=Rbacchiega;391302]hahaha great pic Tony. Mine won't be doing that yet, they're not old enough but the noises Tortoises make when they do it is hilarious.


Years ago while at the Honolulu Zoo, we heard this strange noise. We tracked it down to this bare pen with nothing but large boulders in it. Then I noticed all the boulders were in pairs. Suddenly, a long neck stuck up from one of the boulders and emitted this strange noise. After walking around to the other side of the pen we could see all these large tortoises doing their thing. Weirdest noise I've ever heard coming from an animal.


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