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untamed 12-10-2008 11:22 PM

Don't fang blennies feed on skin/scales of larger fish? I saw those guys the other day at JL, and I was wondering about that as I looked at them.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-10-2008 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by untamed (Post 367489)
Your yellow tang should kick that ich. I know I have ich in my tank but my yellow tang is one of the fish that never shows any sign of it. They must have better natural resistance than something like my achilles, which always shows it to some degree.

I like the rockwork in that tank! That will look fabulous in about 1 year.

Are you planning on doing anything more with your lighting? It looks like you are lighting the reef portion with MH, but not trying to light that sandy end too much. What is your plan there?

Have not decided yet on the lighting. The pictures loose the effect but the light shimmers really nicely on the far side and is not nearly as dark as in the pics. I guess it depends on if I ever add anything to that end. Right now there are some softies that seem to have enough light but I may sell those.

The tang only had the spots for half a day and they are gone again. Well there are a few still but nothing to worry about I don't think. We'll see. He doesn't rub or seem effected at all.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-10-2008 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by untamed (Post 367491)
Don't fang blennies feed on skin/scales of larger fish? I saw those guys the other day at JL, and I was wondering about that as I looked at them.

I don't know to be honest. I wasn't going to buy them because I haven't done any research but it was kind of an impulse buy. They ate mysis as soon as I put them in the tank and they spend all day eating pods. Its actually really cool how they hunt pods. They kind of hover, almost still just about 3" above the sand then suddenly dart down and grab a pod and dart back up to hover mode again. Very cool fish but I don't know about the skin/scales thing. I will have to read up in that.

They eat nori and pellets too. The only thing I did know about Fang Blennies is that they have a poisonous bite.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-11-2008 07:28 PM

Can't find anything anywhere about Stripped Fang Blennies eating skin of other fish. Doesn't mean they don't though. Most sites say small foods. Mine eat like little pigs. Even nori. No aggression so far from them, which I was warned can happen. I think the tank is big enough though to keep them from getting too nasty.

Anyone have advice for keeping different gobies and blennies together? I guess body shape/color needs to be different? Any species I should stay away from? Looking for all kinds of advice here as I have never kept small fish.

Here are some of the ones I hope to keep and what I have:

Have these:

Yellow Tang
Pair of Stripped Fang Blennies
Pair of False Perc Clowns
Clown Goby

Want :) :

Swissgaurd Basslet (can you keep them in pairs?)
Purple Firefish
Helfrichi Firefish (maybe not both though?)
Some kind of shrimp/goby pair (open to ideas)
Pearly Jawfish
Pair or group of Chalk Bass

There are a bunch more I like too but I can't remember names.

Can anyone recommend a nice small wrasse or two that would fit in? Any other suggestions would be great!

seanoman 12-11-2008 07:55 PM

small wrasse
 
We have a yellow fin fairy wrasse in our tank...he is the coolest fish. Tons of personality! That's what I would recommend if you can find one and they're inexpensive too. We also have a green coris wrasse, it is also a neat fish, not quite as much personality but a helpful fish in the tank as they eat pests and it's a nice colour.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-11-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by seanoman (Post 367794)
We have a yellow fin fairy wrasse in our tank...he is the coolest fish. Tons of personality! That's what I would recommend if you can find one and they're inexpensive too. We also have a green coris wrasse, it is also a neat fish, not quite as much personality but a helpful fish in the tank as they eat pests and it's a nice colour.

Thanks! I just looked up the Yellow Fin Fairy Wrasse and will be adding that to my list I think! Very nice. I like the coris wrasse but I think they get a bit bigger. I want to stay small if possible with this tank. Looks like that Fairy Wrasse stays under 3".

Pan 12-11-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 367804)
Thanks! I just looked up the Yellow Fin Fairy Wrasse and will be adding that to my list I think! Very nice. I like the coris wrasse but I think they get a bit bigger. I want to stay small if possible with this tank. Looks like that Fairy Wrasse stays under 3".

ooh oooh POSSUM WRASSE!!! I'm getting one...a friend had one and it was quite cool....
http://www.themarinecenter.com/fish/.../possumwrasse/

When the new tank goes up it is the only non goby I will be getting. :)

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-11-2008 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Ol Nobodaddy (Post 367807)
ooh oooh POSSUM WRASSE!!! I'm getting one...a friend had one and it was quite cool....
http://www.themarinecenter.com/fish/.../possumwrasse/

When the new tank goes up it is the only non goby I will be getting. :)

WOW! Thanks! That fish in amazing.

What kind of gobies do you plan on?

Pan 12-11-2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 367812)
WOW! Thanks! That fish in amazing.

What kind of gobies do you plan on?

Well, other than the mated mandarins (maybe just one, I have live food so no problem) and the Possum wrasse I would Like:
Green Clown Goby - Gobiodon atrangulatus
Spotted Watchman Goby - Cryptocentrus leptocephalus
Red Headed Goby - Gobiosoma puncticulatus - RedHeaded Gobies
Trimma Goby
My little red headed jawfish of course :)

Oh and a couple blennies :)
Starry Blenny and Red Spotted Blenny (Istiblennius chrysospilos)

I would also love a Blue Sapphire Damselfish but i never see them :(

There are other gobies, but seem next to impossible to get, as well they require a darker tank which mine will not be.

Any suggestions ?

Oh yeah I have tentatively on the list a Discordipinna griessingeri

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-11-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Ol Nobodaddy (Post 367825)
Well, other than the mated mandarins (maybe just one, I have live food so no problem) and the Possum wrasse I would Like:
Green Clown Goby - Gobiodon atrangulatus
Spotted Watchman Goby - Cryptocentrus leptocephalus
Red Headed Goby - Gobiosoma puncticulatus - RedHeaded Gobies
Trimma Goby
My little red headed jawfish of course :)

Oh and a couple blennies :)
Starry Blenny and Red Spotted Blenny (Istiblennius chrysospilos)

I would also love a Blue Sapphire Damselfish but i never see them :(

There are other gobies, but seem next to impossible to get, as well they require a darker tank which mine will not be.

Any suggestions ?

Oh yeah I have tentatively on the list a Discordipinna griessingeri

Nice list. I have no suggestions for you...I was hoping to get some myself!

I don't know much about gobies. Do they mostly all get along? I would love to keep a bunch of small ones if possible.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-11-2008 11:14 PM

I would love to find one of these...

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...55&pcatid=2755

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-11-2008 11:21 PM

Found a few more I really like:

Pacific Candy Basslet
Yelllow Assessor
Circus Goby
Blue Spot Jawfish
Red Head Elegant Pseudochromis
Strawberry Purple Pseudochromis really like this one http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/pse...pseudochromis/

Lined Dartfish


Now I just have to figure out which I can find and what will get along. :D

Pan 12-12-2008 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 367880)
I would love to find one of these...

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/p...55&pcatid=2755

I've seen them on jl aquatics new and noteworthy from time to time. After seeing them called dracula gobys they actually look creepy to me now :(

Pan 12-12-2008 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 367882)
Found a few more I really like:

Pacific Candy Basslet
Yelllow Assessor
Circus Goby
Blue Spot Jawfish
Red Head Elegant Pseudochromis
Strawberry Purple Pseudochromis really like this one http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/pse...pseudochromis/

Lined Dartfish


Now I just have to figure out which I can find and what will get along. :D

I love the blue spot jawfish, but I have my red headed one...any jawfish though is cool....mine is weird looking.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-12-2008 12:49 AM

SO how well do species of gobies get along? I am having a very hard time figuring out what I can and cannot do.

I know blennies can get nasty, so I may not be able to add more. I have the two stripped ones and wanted a Canary yellow one but I will have to keep reading.

Its hard to find any good info on keeping all these small fish together. Not like Tangs or Triggers where there is an abundance of advice and knowledge out there. I guess many people keep them in nano's and have no interest in mixing too many species.

I have been very impressed so far with my Fang Blennies. Very peaceful and swim/use the 6' of the tank. Very entertaining to watch them hunting pods. They have huge fat bellies already...I guess between the pods and mysis they go nuts for, they are getting a lot of food. I feed three times a day.

Pan 12-12-2008 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer (Post 367903)
SO how well do species of gobies get along? I am having a very hard time figuring out what I can and cannot do.

I know blennies can get nasty, so I may not be able to add more. I have the two stripped ones and wanted a Canary yellow one but I will have to keep reading.

Its hard to find any good info on keeping all these small fish together. Not like Tangs or Triggers where there is an abundance of advice and knowledge out there. I guess many people keep them in nano's and have no interest in mixing too many species.

I have been very impressed so far with my Fang Blennies. Very peaceful and swim/use the 6' of the tank. Very entertaining to watch them hunting pods. They have huge fat bellies already...I guess between the pods and mysis they go nuts for, they are getting a lot of food. I feed three times a day.

Nothing i've read suggests the small gobies won't get a long, but I am still looking into it. I've seen a few goby only tanks though ranging from 20 gallons to 90 gallons...so i think for the most part you are okay with gobies. Every tank had a myriad of crevices nooks crannies, corals etc for them to perch and hide though, not open sand based systems, at least not the smaller ones anyways.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-12-2008 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Ol Nobodaddy (Post 367917)
Nothing i've read suggests the small gobies won't get a long, but I am still looking into it. I've seen a few goby only tanks though ranging from 20 gallons to 90 gallons...so i think for the most part you are okay with gobies. Every tank had a myriad of crevices nooks crannies, corals etc for them to perch and hide though, not open sand based systems, at least not the smaller ones anyways.

I have not found too much to suggest they don't either.

I am going to be picking up a few more this weekend, so we will see. Depends what J&L has right now though. Nothing as small as that Clown Goby I have already though...I never see him.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-13-2008 02:14 AM

One of the Fang Blennies was super fat the last two days and I thought it just ate too much. I couldn't find it anywhere today and thought it maybe went down the overflow or something :sad:

Finally found "her" in a small cave. I couldn't figure out why she wasn't coming out for food until I saw the eggs. I guess she wasn't just fat! She has a decent amount of eggs in this tiny dark cave. I am guessing she had them already when I bought her. Or maybe they are a pair? But that seems kind of fast. They really don't leave each others side though until today.

Just thought it was kind of cool. I will try for pics but she choose an almost impossible place for me to photograph.

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-13-2008 02:46 AM

Well quite the day!

Went back to the tank and couldn't find the other blenny. My carpet anemone did though :( The anemone was pulling the blenny into its mouth as the blenny frantically tried to escape. Kind of sad to watch but thats nature. Very interesting to watch too.

I kind of figured fish instinctually stayed away from anemones like this.

banditpowdercoat 12-13-2008 03:07 AM

sorry to hear about the fish :( Was there any way to intervene? por was it too late when you seen the goings on?

on your drain into the sump. Did you get the sump noise cleared up? I too am stuck with one drain hole in my tank. If I knew how easy it was to drill a tank before I started, I would have drilled it. But alas, Im stuck. I have a Durso style drain. with the ail vent up top. I also tried the T style thing down at the sump, to let the air escape instead of going into the sump with the water. I found it was noisy. The upright tube was like a megaphone. Did you have success with it?

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-13-2008 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 368220)
sorry to hear about the fish :( Was there any way to intervene? por was it too late when you seen the goings on?

on your drain into the sump. Did you get the sump noise cleared up? I too am stuck with one drain hole in my tank. If I knew how easy it was to drill a tank before I started, I would have drilled it. But alas, Im stuck. I have a Durso style drain. with the ail vent up top. I also tried the T style thing down at the sump, to let the air escape instead of going into the sump with the water. I found it was noisy. The upright tube was like a megaphone. Did you have success with it?

My success has been moving the reef to the big tank! I guess you missed all that :lol: Its got two drains and a proper herbie style overflow. Dead silent.

As for the fish. No I was not going to intervene. I did think about it though. But I think I would have ripped the poor thing in two. That anemone is one of the mini carpets and is the stickiest anemone I have ever felt. Nothing comes back out! Its sting is very painful too. I can easily touch bubbletip or long tentacle anemones but the mini carpet...forget it!

Oh well...like I said thats nature. Don't know if I will replace that fish. I may though. I am going to J&L tomorrow and Im sure I will be tempted.

banditpowdercoat 12-13-2008 03:50 AM

Ya I missed the moving to the big tank. I think I skipped a page. LTA's sting? Do they all? I ahve one and have never felt any kind of sting from him. Itt is weired feeling when it sticks to you. Like Let go LOL let go allready...

GreenSpottedPuffer 12-13-2008 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by banditpowdercoat (Post 368234)
Ya I missed the moving to the big tank. I think I skipped a page. LTA's sting? Do they all? I ahve one and have never felt any kind of sting from him. Itt is weired feeling when it sticks to you. Like Let go LOL let go allready...

Yeah I guess they don't...I don't know. Just assumed they did. I have touched them and never really felt anything. Maybe thats because those species don't sting. I just know the carpet stings and leave your hands really, really red after.


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