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michika 05-11-2008 08:42 PM

Top portion of the stand is on, fugly 70s fan is still unfortunately present.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0275.jpg

Tank full of RO/DI. We held off on filling it completely full to account for the space sand, rock, and the salt would take up.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0277.jpg

Then we put the salt in. Just a single bucket for now.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0284.jpg

We also picked up a piece of live rock to seed the tank today. Nice piece that should make a nice island at some point.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0280.jpg

Pan 05-11-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 323521)
You should have stayed in town yesterday, then I could have put you to work over here!

Okay stocking plan tentatively are;
Tangs - various, will post when I actually have them
Emperor angel
Male mandarin, which I have already. I would like to add a female, but they seem to be extra hard to find.
I want a schooling fish of sorts, I am researching glass eye cardinals right now
Pair of yellow headed jawfish
a few lipstick conches
my one yellow damsel, one of my first fish from when I first started.
Clown gobies - green, or yellow, not sure yet.

The plan is to do a bunch of low islands throughout the tank, and to eventually grow up SPS colonies, like stags, digis and birdnests. I would like to create a forest like look and have the SPS act as hiding spaces. I want to put a minimal amount of rock in the display, and plan to keep the bulk of the rock in the sump.

Since I have to wait for the SPS to grow in, I'll be adding fish in 3 or so waves. 1st wave will be a few more social fish, and my existing livestock. I want fish that will stay out and will socialize, and in turn they will bring out any shy fish I add in the future. 2nd wave will be some of the bottom dwellers; jawfish, and maybe a blenny. 3rd wave, once the SPS has grown in, or I add rock towers (if my SPS problem continues), will be the schooling fish, and those that have an intimate relationship with SPS, like clown gobies. I think all in all I want 5-6 larger fish (tangs, the angel, wrasses) , 5-10 medium fish (smaller wrasses, etc), and probably 10-15 small fish (cardinals, gobies).

We'll take it as it goes and make changes as need. I'll definitely consider any fish. I saw a lookdown at the store today, and thought it was quite cool.

Cool. Yes, I like my wrasses as well., I have two and will be getting a third in the next week or two, both the once i have like ground up pellets, flake and michika mash :) I am not liking my blue streak cardinal, mind you if there was more than one the behavior might be different. But he/she just hangs out in the back of the tank and hovers. Comes out when the lights are off, but i have noticed since i added the chromis it comes out more when the lights are on. I like the chromis, although they keep going in the overflow (bypassing the filter sock god knows how). The way my lights are as they swim across the tank they go from bright green to bluish green to bright blue. You could always go with chalk bass? I think they school, but i have no real experience with them. I like the jawfish though, except the one i had when spooked would jump straight up and out. You defn. need some sand shifting gobies :)
The lookdowns are quite cool...i was considering one, but have not decided. I wish i could have a Moorish idol, but i got one and promptly gave it to a friend with a 1000 gal reef. Stocking is hard, so many fish you could get on a whim in any lfs in the states ....your lucky to find up here :(

On a side Note: You should have waited till next weekend to do this then i could have helped :)

michika 05-11-2008 09:39 PM

By next weekend I'll be anxiously watching my test kits to see how all the rock I add later today is working out!

SG is 1.030, glad we left the extra space in the tank, waiting on more RO/DI to bring down the SG.

GreenSpottedPuffer 05-11-2008 10:20 PM

Only problem with a Lookdown is that it would outgrow that tank. They get about 14-16".

Looks great so far!

michika 05-11-2008 10:30 PM

That is why I passed on it, and the fact that my system is ready yet. The one I saw also had 6" streamers, easily making it way too big.

Something like that would be a much more appropriate choice in our next system, something considerably larger.

Parker 05-11-2008 11:00 PM

Wow, this is coming together fast, looks great!

michika 05-11-2008 11:07 PM

Thank you everyone for the positive comments! I should have one more post to make later tonight.

Lance 05-11-2008 11:15 PM

It's coming together nicely, Catherine. Gonna be a real nice set-up.

sharuq1 05-12-2008 02:53 AM

Lookin' great! Love the new fish you're getting too, especially the purple and sailfin tangs.

michika 05-12-2008 02:53 AM

Thank you everyone!

Tonight's final update for a few days;
- water; done, temp 79
- salt; done, SG 1.024
- sand; done
- rock; done
- temporary sump; done
- skimmer (temp. placement); done

Some more photos for you all;
Return plumbing
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0293.jpg

Our Foreman, constantly putting her nose where it doesn't belong!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0303.jpg

Temporary sump & skimmer set up.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0305.jpg

Starting to clear up!
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0310.jpg

michika 05-13-2008 02:44 AM

We have a cycle!

Ammonia ~0.5
Nitrite ~0.15
SG 1.025

The tank is about 90% cleared up at this point, I think we may try to aquascape tonight with the rock that is in the display right now. No more skimmate, although there is foam!

justinl 05-13-2008 03:30 AM

are you running the skimmer right now to just break it in? I usually dont cycle and skim simultaneously. I figure the skimmer would remove a bunch of the proteins that would break down and contribute to the cycle.

michika 05-13-2008 04:03 AM

The rock was already mostly cycled elsewhere in a bin, I think we are seeing the tail end of the cycle, I need another day or two of data to determine it though. We were trying to run it normally, I've always run it while doing a cycle, but since its not really skimming, I guess we're just breaking it in. :D

GreenSpottedPuffer 05-13-2008 06:03 AM

I have a quick question. Did you see many air bubbles in the silicone when you built the tank? The reason I ask, is that I guess I did not do a great job siliconing my cross brace in and there are small air bubbles. I have noticed that since filling the tank, they seem to have gotten a little bigger, which worries me a little. Im sure it will be fine but I guess the water is putting pressure on the brace (as it should) and when the silicone is being pulled, the air bubbles are getting a bit bigger. Just wondering if you saw any of this with your tank? I ask my step father about it because he used to build tanks and he said it should be fine for a cross brace but it would be really bad if it were the actual corners because each bubble makes the silicone significantly weaker. I think Im just worrying too much though :mrgreen:

EDIT: Sorry that turned out not to be very quick!

michika 05-13-2008 10:27 PM

We don't really have a lot of bubbles to look at, but judging from the few are around they have stayed the same since before adding water to the system. I'm really thankful there were no leaks or any problems with the tank.

I liked your question, it was well thought out and worded, easy to comprehend and answer! :D

Chemistry update:
Ammonia >0.25ppm
Nitrite 0.25ppm
Nitrate 16ppm
pH 8.2

Skimmer is still running, but there doesn't seem to be anything to pull out. I'm glad we started cycling all that rock ahead of time, I think our cycle should finish soon. It will be nice since suddenly my peaceful damsel of 4 years is starting to become a real brat. I guess it can see the new tank and is getting a little cabin fever.

michika 05-14-2008 04:22 AM

Some updates for this evening;

First the tank has cleared, it needs some aquascaping.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0311.jpg

Then we added on our two luminarc reflectors
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0318.jpg

Over the last week we've noticed a 20-30% increase in the humidity reading. However we can't be sure that those numbers are correct because the tank is right around the corner from the thermostat. We do have some options we can explore, should the humidity need to be addressed.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0315.jpg

We also need to figure out our lighting details. Somehow we have screwed up our measurements, and the space we counting on having between the reflectors is no longer available. As shown in the picture there is only 1 3/4" of space between the reflectors, which does not leave the space required for the 3 T5 bulbs we originally planned for.

michika 05-19-2008 02:20 PM

A little more progress on the tank.

Started on the power center
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0352.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0354.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0355.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0380.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0381.jpg

Aquascaping, which I'm not super happy with, but its getting there.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0361.jpg

With a single 175w MH in the center. We think we will go with 2x250w MH and supplement with T5s. Taking that 3rd MH off will save us electricity, heat, and some operating costs.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0362.jpg

We ended up taking the 28g nano down yesterday evening. It wasn't expected, but had to be done. The tank started leaking! So glad that it is down now, its such a relief.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0386.jpg

Jason McK 05-19-2008 03:00 PM

Looks Great Mickika. Really makes me want to clean up my wiring

J

michika 05-19-2008 03:53 PM

I loath mess, so this little power box just helps keep it out of sight and out of mind. I can't wait for it to be in place, I think it will look nice once its all set up.

michika 05-19-2008 04:05 PM

A close up of the front of the control panel. We'll be adding in pH, nitrate, and ORP monitors below the timers.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0400.jpg

robzilla 05-19-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michika (Post 324826)
A close up of the front of the control panel. We'll be adding in pH, nitrate, and ORP monitors below the timers.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0400.jpg

what brand are the timer switches? from ? i assume this is for the lighting? do they have a battery backup?
as i will be building my 120 into a wall stand, and will need to clean up the wires..

michika 05-19-2008 05:23 PM

They came from Rona, and are made by UPM Innovation and are called Programmable Light Switch Timers. Our models are the ETW350 Single Pole 18000w for use with incandescent or flourescent lighting. I'll look for some packaging and try to get you a photo.

They themselves do have a battery back up. We also have a UPS backup which will be wired in to a heater and power head.

michika 05-22-2008 05:54 PM

Some more progress. Our gate valve FINALLY came in, at $60, it was quite the expense. Kevin used it to adjust the overflow height. So right now the water from the overflow goes straight into the rubbermaid sump/skimmer compartment, and then is returned to the tank.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0428.jpg

New fish pictures

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0402.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0403.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0430.jpg

Der_Iron_Chef 05-22-2008 06:09 PM

Hey Catherine, it's looking great!!

Jason McK 05-22-2008 07:22 PM

Looks Great Catherine.

Did I ask this already, What Juv Angle is that?

J

michika 05-22-2008 07:25 PM

Its an emperor. Had it since it was probably size of a quarter. I'm so pleased with it, it doesn't touch anything in the tank it shouldn't. Very peaceful and graceful too.

Here are some better photos of it.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...DSC_0027-2.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...DSC_0050-1.jpg

Its spiny dorsal fin has actually been gaining more of a white color lately. I think I am seeing the beginning of something. While its not necessarily a color morph per say, I think its part of its natural growth sequence. I am trying to document my fish at least once a month with photos to track its changes over its life.

robzilla 05-22-2008 08:52 PM

good luck with your emperor. my full size guy eats pretty much everything. the only things so far he hasnt eaten, is some leather, florida rics, hairy mushrooms, orange cap.

JDigital 05-25-2008 08:53 PM

Wow! Amazing build. Just read thru the entire thread.. These 150G+ build threads seriously blow my mind... Soo nice! Makes me wish I was doing things differently with my small 54G.. haha :lol:

Keep up the great work. Can't wait to see a finished product!

michika 05-25-2008 09:08 PM

Some more photos to keep the thread alive.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0438.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0442.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0444.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0446.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0440.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0447.jpg

Delphinus 05-25-2008 09:56 PM

2" or 1.5" valve?

michika 05-25-2008 10:31 PM

The gate valve? 1.5" its also threaded on both sides.

Der_Iron_Chef 05-26-2008 12:52 AM

I never thought I'd look at a gate valve and think, "Ooh, it sure is purty..."

michika 05-30-2008 02:14 PM

Another quick update;

We ordered the RKE yesterday (digitalaquatics.com), along with the ORP probe. All I have left to get on my list now for that control box is varnish. I have the Nitrate monitor, so its just a matter of mounting everything.

Sump should be coming next week. We will also be building it from scratch. If I remember correctly it will be 3 ft long, 2 ft wide, and 18" tall. It will contain my phosban reactors (filled with non phosban things), the refugium compartment, and I think that is it.

My SPS frags I got at last week's Reef Meet are still doing well, which makes me hopeful!

Parker 05-30-2008 02:48 PM

Be sure to post up your thoughts on the RKE when you get it.. I'll be looking to pick one up around Sept for my tank.. :mrgreen:

michika 05-30-2008 02:50 PM

I definitely will. I just want it to arrive now so I can goof around all day playing with it. I just ended up picking up the basic unit and the ORP probe. I'll pick up anything else I need down the road.

xtreme 05-30-2008 06:07 PM

Any idea if they plan on releasing an OS X version of their software?

michika 05-30-2008 06:12 PM

I haven't heard anything, but I hope they do. I am making Kevin do all the PC connective stuff with the RKE when it gets here. I really really do not like windows. I'm still holding a serious grudge for its decision to eat 3 very important term papers at the last minute.

There have been lots of requests for it though on the RC Digitial Aquatics forum. I know there has also been talk about their MyReef program becoming availble for Mac. It seems that there is lots of demand for mac friendly programming, and it seems like they are looking into it, and starting to address it.

michika 06-03-2008 03:04 AM

Swapped out the lighting from the 175w MH to a single 250w MH. We need a second 250w bulb to turn the second light on.

With the 175w bulb (XM 15K SE)
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...h/DSC_0362.jpg

With the 250w bulb (AquaConnect 14K Plus)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0502.jpg

This is what happens every time I try to work, my computer grows a dog. This one suffers from Roll-Over syndrome. As soon as you reach your hand out to pet her, something causes her to become a limp noodle and to immediately show you her belly.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...a/DSC_0504.jpg

Sump should be coming on Wednesday, and again we will be building it from scratch.

JDigital 06-03-2008 03:41 AM

^^ haha... Your a MAC user... Nice! :biggrin: Good Choice! Mine doesn't have dogs growing out of it though..


Lighting change was a HUGE improvement!

michika 06-03-2008 03:49 AM

I love my macs, I will never use a PC again if I can help it. I have a MacBook and an iMac G5. I want to upgrade, but I can't bear to part with either of them.


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