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Delphinus 07-15-2007 10:51 PM

Unfortunately, that site is wrong with their info. You have to take into account the source of the information. Are they trying to sell something? Yes. Am I trying to sell something? No. I have no reason to mislead you on this: a Naso tang is a wholly inappropriate fish for a tank less than 200, possibly even 300 gallons. If you have seen this fish in the wild, you would understand.

And what is the point of putting a baby fish in a tank if you have no upgrade path? It's one thing to put a small fish in a 55g if you have ten tanks on the go and the appropriate sized tank ready to go when the fish gets larger. If you have to trade the fish in within 6 to 10 weeks, then the answer is simple: Don't get the fish.

Get the larger tank going first, then think about a tang. In the meantime, stick to the pictures. Like I said, it's a bitter pill to swallow to stay in our means, but we all have to do it sometimes, everyone.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik_101 (Post 260202)
http://www.marinecenter.com/fish/tangs/nasotang/
Hmm maybe I will get a naso tang scince on thins site they say it needs a minimum of 55g


hawk 07-15-2007 10:59 PM

I think people are being punked here

SeaHorse_Fanatic 07-16-2007 01:01 AM

Punked or not, good info being offered on this thread.

He does sound like someone who is desperate for someone, anyone, to tell him to do whatever he wants to do anyways. If six pages of "DON'T DO IT!!!" is not enough, then we're all wasting our time anyways. I wonder if he even looked up the adult size of Naso tangs before deciding he wants one so badly?

Moogled 07-16-2007 01:14 AM

I think people are being punked here as well - - - - ever since page 3.

Let this guy get his Naso tang.

PS: Don't send me PMs, Mik_101 or bv_reefer. They will be deleted on sight.

Chaloupa 07-16-2007 01:57 AM

I agree as well...and I am unsubscribing to this thread as it is wholly a waste of all of our input, information and advice

Mik_101 07-16-2007 02:31 AM

Can this thread be closed pleas

Mik_101 07-16-2007 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moogled (Post 260221)
I think people are being punked here as well - - - - ever since page 3.

Let this guy get his Naso tang.

PS: Don't send me PMs, Mik_101 or bv_reefer. They will be deleted on sight.

No. no one is being punked I just realy realy realy like naso tangs. Well I also like tangs ingeneral.

Mik_101 07-16-2007 02:37 AM

I just wont get a tang if it makes everyone happy including me i wont get it.
I will now most likley go with Cherub Pygmy Angel or a Bi-colour Angle and with those are they likley to nip.
PS. Sorrey Moogled. and you guys make feel like a crook now

Are ther any larger fish i can keep besudes a tang.:onfire:

andresont 07-16-2007 04:08 AM

I wish i could be as excited about any fish or coral as Mik_101 again !

Mik_101 07-16-2007 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andresont (Post 260244)
I wish i could be as excited about any fish or coral as Mik_101 again !

Is that supposed to be against me? lol i dint know.

TheReefGuy 07-16-2007 04:44 AM

I had a naso Tang in my old 35 gallon tank and he wa a happy camper in ther then after he got over 5" i traded him for a baby naso and so on.

TheReefGuy 07-16-2007 04:49 AM

One more question? I know Mik_101 he is only 14 year of age I sold him a MH socket I just don't see why some of you were quit mean to him. If you ever meet him he is a very nice kid and unbelievably kind.
PS. I have only meet him once so I dont realy know him to well.

Mik_101 07-16-2007 06:02 AM

Ya im not even going to get a any tang because everyone will give me a hard time I know it they dont like me thats how I feel espetally after when they think ther getting "punked" as they call it. I feel like deleting my canreef acount but im not going to because the advice hear is unbalivable.(in the good way)

Moogled 07-16-2007 06:11 AM

TheReefGuy, if you call 8+ pages of advice about how a tang won't do that well in a smaller tank (or not, depending on who you are), please don't misunderstand.

Everyone in this thread is EAGER to help people that are willing to ask. I'm sorry that you feel we're picking on him, but honestly - it's getting a bit tiring when you have to tell a kid to stop blowing bubbles in his chocolate milk.

Mik_101, you don't have to listen to us. Experimenting is a part of reefing but you should know that these fish are not cheap. We're all nice people here and we hope that you take our comments to heart. If I had to retract my comment about you punking us, here it is:

Please be more self-aware when 10 people give you the same advice about the same thing.

Mik_101 07-16-2007 06:24 AM

Moogled- Sorrey I did over react I do have to say that.

I have came over that I want a tang because it is true that I have to pay for everything my self so I am either going with a

Bicolor Angelfish
Lemonpeel Angelfish
Multicolor Angelfish
Pygmy (Cherub) Angelfish
Flameback Angelfish
Half Black Angelfish
One of those
In your guys opinion who would you go with and agine witch one has a smaller chanse of nipping at my corals and if they do they are going to go in my time out tank.

bv_reefer 07-16-2007 06:41 AM

really??
 
-mik man...when u have all those nice established sps and lps corals
surrounding ur live rock....do u really need 2 risk putting a coral muncher
in there? -as if sps corals aren't hard enough 2 maintain with light,nutrition
and compatiblility, the LAST thing u'll ever need iz a fish that likes ur corals
for there taste!

Mik_101 07-16-2007 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bv_reefer (Post 260285)
-mik man...when u have all those nice established sps and lps corals
surrounding ur live rock....do u really need 2 risk putting a coral muncher
in there? -as if sps corals aren't hard enough 2 maintain with light,nutrition
and compatiblility, the LAST thing u'll ever need iz a fish that likes ur corals
for there taste!

Well icant keep a tang because the poor thing will die in ther in ayear or so.

Mik_101 07-16-2007 08:02 AM

Anyone on the angles pleas.
Do you think it would be a gamble to go with a flame angle.?

Doug 07-16-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReefGuy (Post 260255)
I had a naso Tang in my old 35 gallon tank and he wa a happy camper in ther then after he got over 5" i traded him for a baby naso and so on.

After all thats been posted here, thats dandy advice. :sad:

Doug 07-16-2007 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik_101 (Post 260274)
Ya im not even going to get a any tang because everyone will give me a hard time I know it they dont like me thats how I feel espetally after when they think ther getting "punked" as they call it. I feel like deleting my canreef acount but im not going to because the advice hear is unbalivable.(in the good way)

Sorry you feel this way Miki. Not sure why you would say the advice is unbelievable. I thought most of it was good and most were pretty polite. When one asks for advice on a public board, they will get all kinds of responses and have to sort the good from the bad. I hope you will stay with us, as your reef tank takes shape.

Doug 07-16-2007 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik_101 (Post 260298)
Anyone on the angles pleas.
Do you think it would be a gamble to go with a flame angle.?

I would still say its about 50/50. If one avoids the more fleshy lps corals and perhaps clams, they may have better luck. But they have been know to nip at sps also. The coral beauty seems to be somewhat better but still a chance they could turn on corals.

Mik_101 07-16-2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 260309)
Sorry you feel this way Miki. Not sure why you would say the advice is unbelievable. I thought most of it was good and most were pretty polite. When one asks for advice on a public board, they will get all kinds of responses and have to sort the good from the bad. I hope you will stay with us, as your reef tank takes shape.

Doug I ment undalivable as in awsome advice not bad advice.

TheReefGuy 07-16-2007 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug (Post 260308)
After all thats been posted here, thats dandy advice. :sad:

Ok your a big shot now im just trying to help.

Delphinus 07-16-2007 04:40 PM

Hi Mik_101, I'm sorry if I came across harshly, it's not my intent. I just want you to be able to get all that you can out of this hobby - because there tends to be a LOT of frustration that we have to suffer just as much as all the good things; so if I can help someone avoid some of that frustration, I want to do so, because it always makes me sad to see someone quit because the hobby got overwhelming for them.

If I was in your position, I would try a flame angel. Particularly if you can find one that was collected in Hawaii because the colours are out of this world (the Hawaiian flames tend to have much more brilliant reds to them, as opposed to orange and yellows, and the striking red colour creates a bold contrast to the blues on their tails). They are all pretty however, not just the Hawaiians.

I'm afraid I can't offer much on the others you've listed as I have no experience with most of those (I've only ever kept a potter's, but I have friends who have flames and I've looked at them a lot :lol: ).

Here is a good site dedicated to info on the pygmy angels: www.centropyge.net

It lists the angels by species and gives you some to-the-point info. For example, here is the page on flame angels: http://centropyge.net/flame.html

Delphinus 07-16-2007 04:42 PM

Guys, keep the tone friendly - there's no need to get snitty or personal or get our feathers ruffled. If it happens we'll close the thread, flame wars are not tolerated here.

TheReefGuy 07-16-2007 04:47 PM

Ok im sorrey guys.:sad:

Mik_101 07-16-2007 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 260329)
Hi Mik_101, I'm sorry if I came across harshly, it's not my intent. I just want you to be able to get all that you can out of this hobby - because there tends to be a LOT of frustration that we have to suffer just as much as all the good things; so if I can help someone avoid some of that frustration, I want to do so, because it always makes me sad to see someone quit because the hobby got overwhelming for them.

If I was in your position, I would try a flame angel. Particularly if you can find one that was collected in Hawaii because the colours are out of this world (the Hawaiian flames tend to have much more brilliant reds to them, as opposed to orange and yellows, and the striking red colour creates a bold contrast to the blues on their tails). They are all pretty however, not just the Hawaiians.

I'm afraid I can't offer much on the others you've listed as I have no experience with most of those (I've only ever kept a potter's, but I have friends who have flames and I've looked at them a lot :lol: ).

Here is a good site dedicated to info on the pygmy angels: www.centropyge.net

It lists the angels by species and gives you some to-the-point info. For example, here is the page on flame angels: http://centropyge.net/flame.html

Hey thanks Tony those were grate sites. Is it harder to find flame angles from Hawaii. I'm not sure but I think ocean aquatics has some from Hawaii in regularly.

Delphinus 07-16-2007 05:18 PM

Yeah, thing to do is just ask, "Are these Flames from Hawaii?" After looking at a few from there versus some from other places, you'll notice the difference. Of course, they're all pretty though. :)

Doug 07-16-2007 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik_101 (Post 260324)
Doug I ment undalivable as in awsome advice not bad advice.

Ok. Cool.

Doug 07-16-2007 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheReefGuy (Post 260326)
Ok your a big shot now im just trying to help.


Gee, thanks. :smile:

Moogled 07-16-2007 08:15 PM

Mik_101, just throwing my own experiences out here:

When I first started, I wanted to keep fish of all sorts. Although I like to take risks with livestock (and I do, to a reasonable extent like TheReefGuy), I also try to predict what would be easiest for ME as the maintenance person of my tank.

I wanted to keep percs, tassled filefish, blue tangs, yellow watchman gobies, pipefish, seahorses, EVERYTHING. Now I only have a pair of percs, pair of bangaii and a Tomini tang in my tank - all very happy.

Now that you've determined big fish for your tank = bad, concentrate on what you can DEFINITELY keep (not controversial) and go from there. That said, I know you're young and very ambivalent with your livestock choices so just do what you want (with assured fish choices) and see how it works out.

You want a Flame Angel? Go for it. You're scared of it nibbling your corals? Don't get it. Don't burden yourself with the question of "What if?" if you're not prepared to take the plunge.

Mik_101 07-16-2007 08:46 PM

Lol i gusse it one of those things wher you got to preper your self mentaly.

naesco 07-16-2007 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mik_101 (Post 260098)
Wow im realy surprised on how many posts I would get under this thread. Some I like some i defenetly i dont like... The thing is about tangs ther probably my favorite saltwater fish and ther is not one tang I can keep witch makes me whant to get 100g system(in my dreams) but honestly is ther tank of any kind i can keep...yellow tang, naso tang (just kidding. i wish),kole or scopas tang.

No!


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