I remember reading a thread on RC a while back about people who ran actinics for the majority of the day and saw no difference in growth patterns or colors, so I decided to try this myself. In my experience, there IS no real noticable difference so I left it like that. Save on heat, power and extends the bulb life a little bit.

Actually Its a Green clown Goby you have there....

looks good thou, let me know when you guy s get in Potters angels i would like to get one .... and some more Cerith snail's



Mike

oops!!! thanks for the ID mike! i will give you a call if we get any potters angels in and we SOULD get some more ceriths with our next order! keep rested!

ok, my dad being his usual self (cheap) decided that he wanted to be able to use the 30g sump that i have later on if i ever decide to upgrade sumps.... being a Hagen tank i can see were he is coming from BUT i still need to use it... is there any way to get around siliconing glass in the sump???

I would silicone the glass into the sump on the sides of the glass, not between the glass and the sides. Silicone can come off with a little work with a razor blade... Plus, its only a 30gallon, and they don't cost alll to much to buy if you do happen to ruin it or if you scratch it while trying to remove the glass pieces from inside

thats the problem MY DAD IS CHEAP! he wants to keep this tank
i dont quite understand this though

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...asspicture.jpg

ok, at point 1, instead of siliconing the side of the baffle to the aquarium, put 2 globs of silicone on either side that can easily be cut off with a blade when it comes to removal. Its more of an idea that I know would work thats in the top of my head... its hard to put into words. point 2 shows what I mean by globs of silicone of the sides of each baffle.

Wish I could explain it better...

In short: Silicone is easy to cut off with a blade, so if you decide to silicone baffles into a tank to make it a sump, silicone it in a way that would be easy to get at with the edge of a blade, just to losen the baffles, then you could clean up the bits of silicone once the glass is removed.

ok i think i get it now.......but i now have ANOTHER problem....my skimmer takes up like 1/2 of the sump!!! now throw a mag 18 in there and i dont have much room left:sad: .....is there any way to "spacesave" and not have the baffles and still have an effective sump??

call me ok i will explain to you little grasshopper.


mike
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You could put a mag beside the sump, and run it inline, but instead of drilling the tank, you could just put some flex tubing into the sump and run it to the intake of the pump, and just find a way to secure the tube so it doesn't fall out and suck air.

Im sure that guy with the post above me will have a good explaination, or better idea.

ok so my dad got a little excited about getting the tank running so he ran all the plumbing while i was at work. it wasnt quite what i had in mind but i think he did pretty good.if anyone can explain to me what to do with the 6 inches of sump i have left....it would be greatly appreciated! Mike, my sister is out of town so she is CONSTANTLEY on the phone with my mom here so any time im home....the phone is in use!!! if there is anyway to explain my sump situation on here i would be very happy!!!!
here is the sump. remember, this is the dry run so ANYTHING can be changed.
http://www.freewebs.com/eriksnanoreef/SUMP.jpg
also, can i use this PVC glue on the pipes????
http://www.freewebs.com/eriksnanoreef/GLUE.jpg
thanks!

I really wouldn't put my skimmer right next to the return pump...you'll get bubbles up the yinyang. Have the skimmer and the return pump on opposite sides of the tank and a bunch of baffles inbetween. Unfortunatly, your sump is really too small to add anything else IMO with that giant skimmer and return pump in there...

I agree... but on the other hand it has a very nice background. :mrgreen:

lol, it is a 30g sump, can i put the skimmer right were the water falls in??? also, what can i put in between the skimmer and return for filteration?? HELP! (ps. im glad you like the background!!!)

If you can shoehorn the skimmer where the water enters, that is where I would put the skimmer. Also, you will need a series of baffles between the skimmer and return pump (3 or 4 baffles). You don't really need any other filtration IMO.

ok so baffles can be how far apart??? and how high from the water surface and bottom of the tank?? (obviously never done this!!!)

The baffles can be what ever distances apart i would go with 1 -1.5" apart and as for the baffles. the closer apart the fasater the ater will run thru them .

The first one will determine the height of your level so i would put t he 1ST baffles aro8und 8-9" high.

ok

Look up and see what ASM skimmers have to run in for a water height. and thay should help ya out...


mike

If you have higher water velocity through your sump, space your baffles farther apart. If you have slower water velocity through your sump, use baffles that are closer together.

at least an inch
 

Remember when placing baffles you want at least an inch of space between so you don't break your baffles when you are trying to remove the Hair Algea from them...grrr
Also ASM skimmeras recomend 10" of water to run optimaly
Just my .02
Dan

Thanks harvey for explaining that in better trems then me ...:mrgreen:

YAY, the baffles are in place and everything is ready to go! we are going to minot the 24-26th so we dont want to fill it then leave because we DONT want 150 gallons of water in my house...(that isnt in a glass box)!
so we will be filling it on the 26th! coincidentily, my birthday!!! i will post pictures on the 26th! thanks

Congrats dont forgetto pick up some pickling lime at the super store across from the mall its in the far bac righ of the store... god to hear oh ya. Can ya call me i need to ask you a huge favor in regards to Kick Ick in the store at Best west.

mike

i will. how much of that stuff do you use??? i will call you later tonight....im at school right now !:mrgreen:

I dont know I thought there might ber some at the store, but i guess not so I have heard..

no... we have none. How much of this pickling lime do you use????now that the tank is done i REALLY want to put water in it!!!! but half the battle to salt is patiants!!!

make sure you stop over at the house so you can see what type of pickling lime that i have. So you know what it looks like. its green and its called MRS WAGES pickling lime ..

lets see some pictures of the tank and sump then ..

When you start to use it u use 1-2 tablespoons per gallon of water ,
Let it set and use the clear liquid and start a drip 1-2 drips per sec.

Lots of people are using toward there evaporation use if you evaporate 2 gallons per day then you use 2 gallons of kalk and water and drip it.

Remember it has to be dripped to the tank slowly.

And its Fresh RO water you use to mix the Kalk / Pickling Lime.

ok, so to start a drip, i can just use a plastic jar or something, drill a hole near the bottom (in the side of it) put some airline tubing in it, then a little ballvalve and thats it right??? and also, i remember what it looks like Mike, and i wont be able to come there anyway because right after school i work, then we are leaving bright and early!

o ya, i almost forgot,would 2 bottles of this stuff do me for a while?

im in minot right now, on my sisters laptop, (gotta love wireless net) and i really need to know if this is how i can do this so i can look for supplies!!! ANY cheap drip ideas for calkwasser would be appreciated! thanks

I told you how to make one, get a small tupperware container and drill a hole and add a small valve and some clear tubing 1/8" i think and silicone the container and there you have it.


mike

P.S is tha what you wanted to know

yes, that is just what i was looking for, thanks mike. i will look for a small container while im here.... also found a blastomussa here that im in love with! wont be coming home with it though:sad: .....stupid cities permits

I made my drip container geto all teh stuff from walmart i tihnk it cost me around 6 dollars if that ...

picked up a plastic container with a lid $1.50 !!! haha and i have TONS of airline tubing at home, all i need is a ball valve, we are going to go to Manards tomorow, im sure they will have one. also got to go have a look at a buddy of mines tank today and it looked great!....well i will post if i got a ballvalve tomorow.

no you need a air valve

Are you making a Kalk dripper? All you need is a 2L pop bottle, drill a hole in the cap, stick some airline tube in it and seal it, and use a valve with some sort of precision (or tie knots in the tubing) to control the drip rate.

There goes Harvey mister smarty pants :mrgreen:

ok, im home now, i have a question, to do a drip of the pickling lime, how much should i mix to drip into my 20 gallon for the next couple of days????

Start with 1/2 teaspoon first and adjust as needed. Keep an eye on you pH though and dose it at night.

does this stuff reduce PH??? and why dose at night??? so the corals dont get it full on???? also, i have a container that is 1/2 gallon.....im going to put 1/2 teaspoon in there mixed with the rest of it water...this should last how long??? how many drips should i get?? is it like 1 per second?? thanks