Thanks, I'll give Reef Salt a try.

I don't even see the 25kg from aquaforest's website?

on amazon

Picked it up today :mrgreen:

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Hate the lid! Wish every salt manufacturer would do something similar to Salinity's bucket. I am crying inside for throwing away the bucket during my move :cry:

I always use a pair of pliers to open the lid, works much better than hands :lol::lol:

Let us know how you like the salt.

Pliers will be easier but this lid is probably the worst one I have seen, the second worst being H2ocean. I guess "high end" salt manufacturers don't pay much attention to the fact that the lids need to be opened in order to use the salt :lol:

Where did you find that?

Amazon. I picked up the 2nd last one.

Have you mixed any yet? Curios about the actual readings you get for the elements. The last two buckets of IO I've bought have had ridiculously low Mg.

Won't be mixing any time soon. RODI is on back order right now (hopefully will be shipped out on 28th of this month), need to get the LR which may take some time. I will probably be mixing it during the 2nd week of January. But when I do, I will post the results. Need to get testing kit though.

I just ordered 2 of the reef salt 25kg boxes....pricing was good and shipping was free. Stock is out but is estimated to be available soon and they don't charge until available. Reef Crystals has been pricier lately in the Okanagan and just so damned dirty. I think things can only get better

Nice score mrhasan! Please post your results after mixing HERE.

22kg bucket of Reef Salt (non probiotic) ordered. Should be interesting.

Nice! Yeah, the cheap salt is getting pricier these days with the American dollar. I think we notice this more because I think vendors tend to have smaller margins on the cheap salt. I don't know for sure, but it seems like the pricey salts haven't gone up much...so far.

I think only the Reef Salt and Sea Salt is available in 25kg boxes, not the Probiotic Reef Salt, correct? Anyone see the Probiotic Reef Salt in a 25kg box? I don't see it on amazon.com either.

they have it on the other side, sort of, out of stock. maybe thats why its not on amazon.

http://aquaforest-reef.co.uk/shop/pr...eef-salt-25kg/

Hmm, ok. Thanks. I noticed also that their "KH Buffer" and "NP Pro" aren't showing up at all on Amazon.ca though it seems all the other products are viewable (but out of stock). I posted on RC in the Aquaforest forum to ask about when the other products will be available.

Was there a 10 mL bottle of NP Pro inside the bucket? I know there is one included in the buckets purchased in the US.

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Yap there was :mrgreen: Did you get yourself a bucket too? :D

Cool! No I haven't ordered it yet. I just want to use up the last 1/2 bucket of H2Ocean first. I'm hoping if I wait a bit that the other products might be available by then too :)

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I just placed an order for the following items:

25kg reef salt
Pro bio S
Pro F
Components stong
And 5000g mineral salt

Will keep you posted when they arrive.

I'm going to order the Coral A, Coral B, Coral V and Coral E as well but I'll wait until I get these items first.

I went with the reef salt rather then the probiotic as I don't think the Probiotic salt would be good to keep pre-mixed in a brute can. And I've read of issues when performing larger volume water changes. I'll just add my own probiotics directly to the tank which I'm sure is the same products they add to their salt.

Going to transition off of my all in one biopellets to this system as I'm finding the pellets are being a little to aggressive in stripping my water no matter how much I feed.

I do very large water changes 3-4 times per year around 50-75%. I asked on RC in the Aquaforest forum about doing this with the Probiotic Reef Salt, and if I should use the Reef Salt instead, and they just insisted that they do not recommend large water changes. :lol: Also, yeah you can't keep any type of probiotic salt mixing in a tub. I'm looking forward to eliminating a pre-mix tub. :)

Aquaforest also recommends use of such products like 15mm Siporax, which when used in a reactor with slow flow, you will create an anaerobic zone for your tank (like a controlled DSB). Some people use SeaChem Matrix, but lab tests by RC member "reefvet" concluded that Siporax was much more efficient. It's the same idea as MarinePure and Matrix, but apparently this Siporax stuff is easier to keep clean and more efficient at denitrification, and also provide a medium for PO4/NO3 reducing bacteria. I'm going to put mine into a PhosBan reactor.

For anyone looking, I was not able to find Siporax available anywhere in Canada. I found the cheapest (with shipping) overseas supply was eBay seller wttomy1 from Austria. I ordered 2L, and it was €6.90 per 1L Siporax, and about €20.00 for shipping. It worked out to CAD$52.41 on my CC in mid-October.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Sera-08472-Si...R9yZBPEIUA76rQ

This is supposedly the most efficient way to use them (all lined up in a reactor).
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Some people just dump them into a container in the sump.
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A closeup.
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I did this same thing with hydroton, grew lots of fauna inside

Received my bucket of Aquaforest reef salt today. Should be receiving the rest of the products in the next week or two as well as Siporax.

Did a small 5 gallon water change to test parameters and overall I was impressed. It mixed clean and clear in a matter of minutes and all parameters were very close to the ones on the quality control sheet. Overall seems like a high quality salt and perfect for carbon dosing. Obviously to early to tell if it will have positive effects on my tank.

Parameters at 1.026 salinity all tested with Salifert

Calcium 415
Magnesium 1320
Alk 7.4dkh
Potassium 400

A picture of the quality control test results is posted below.

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I recently purchased a bucket of their reef salt. I wanted to see where cal/alk/mag would be after mixing it.

We currently use Tropic Marin Pro Reef in-store because its low in alkalinity. All other salt brands we offer are high in alk and my SPS don't like it.

What readings are you guys getting for the big 3 after mixing it up?

Also, I run 3L of Siporax in a Vertex zeo reactor. Its only been a little over a month since I put it online so it might take a while to seed bacteria to get real results.

Everyone has been reporting as dcw1sfu posted above - really close to the quality control sheets.

Excellent.

If so, this will be the salt we use in-store from now on.

I picked up my order of their reef salt from the post office last night. I'm looking forward to giving it a try. My tank doesn't have high requirements yet but I did like the value. Instant Ocean is more expensive at the LFS than this stuff was shipped through Amazon.

Am I the only one who bought the probiotic salt :cry:

I'm thinking of maybe picking up a bucket of this as well for smaller water changes. But I'm going to see how the system reacts to the reef salt pro bio s and bio f and the removal of biopellets. Don't want to much of a shock.

And by the way pro bio s smells way worse then zeo bak. The box must of had some on it and my entire garage smells with it sitting In the garbage. Smells like a waste treatment plant rather then a salt mixing station.

It's a good thing they state that it's not for human consumption on the box because it smells real appetizing...

Amazon has the reef salt (25KG Box) in stock now, only 4 left, act fast.

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B016...=sr_1_5&sr=8-5

Thank you very much shingo, just ordered 2

Apparently this thread is way off topic and become a discussion of Aquaforest salts(Sorry Myka), I came across this review online, just in case anyone is interested.

http://reefhub.pl/test-soli-drugie-starcie

There is a google translate button on the top right.

Shingo, I think that link was posted earlier in this thread, but thanks for sharing! :)

I just heard word that Salty Supply shipped a bunch of Aquaforest products (I believe more than just the salt) to Amazon.ca, so get your little clicker fingers ready! :D

Received a bucket of Reef Salt today. Is that smell the Bio S sample? Not sure I want to bring it in the house!

I'll likely transfer the salt to an easier to open container. I'd rather not tear my finger nails off opening this one.

huh, interesting thread. Can't wait to see what everyone thinks of these products once they used them a while. That probiotic salt seems kinda cool...

Yes it's the bio s sample the box itself stinks. The bottle is fine I gave it a wipe down though prior to putting it in the fridge and made sure the box didnt enter the house.

:lol: Is it really that bad guys? What kind of stink? I didn't realize there was a sample in the Reef Salt too. The probiotic salt has an NP Pro sample, I'm not sure if that stinks too.

Can this method be used in a skimmerless system?

Minus the zeolite stones of course. I've never looked into probiotics in a reef before, sorry if this sounds noobish.

No smell from NP Pro. Its just liquid polymar so shouldn't smell bad (or else I would have been very concerned :razz:).

Probiotic bacteria should stinks bad. I remember zeo-bac smell like rotten eggs.

Unlike the natural nitrifying bacteria (which converts nitrate to N2 gas which escapes from the gas in form of bubbles), probiotic bacteria strains consumes the nitrate (and phosphate too I guess). These bacteria strains needs to be skimmed out (only a small percent is consumed by corals) by a skimmer in order to remove the nutrients from the tank. As a result, all probiotic methods need highly efficient skimmers.