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Snappy 05-19-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 897545)
Triggers would be bad. Tuskfish not so friendly. Larger wrasses - bad. Nothing I have would eat them, but not sure I want 30 peppermints. What are they going to eat if/when they run out of flatties?

If I find another colony affected, I might grab a couple just to experiment in isolation.

Oh, and buying 30 gives you a 30% discount at J&L :)

They are scavengers and will eat pods, leftover food scraps, aptasia, etc. They are also nocternal so you will usually only see them after lights out. They are very easy to catch by using a baited bottle trap & you could likely trade them in at your local fish store for credit on other stuff you need.

kole 05-19-2014 09:32 PM

What about Coral RX PRO Coral Dip would these be any better to dip your corals in or is it basically the same product?

Aquattro 05-19-2014 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by kole (Post 897672)
What about Coral RX PRO Coral Dip would these be any better to dip your corals in or is it basically the same product?

I think any dip will kill them. Just watch to make sure they dont keep moving.

Reefer Rob 05-20-2014 12:44 AM

I found Coral RX to be harsh, say goodbye to your Echinatas. I did a test on a piece of Hawkins to see what would happen, not good.

With bayer, half an hour after returning the Acros to my tank I had polyp extension.

Wheelman76 05-20-2014 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rob (Post 897695)
I found Coral RX to be harsh, say goodbye to your Echinatas. I did a test on a piece of Hawkins to see what would happen, not good.

With bayer, half an hour after returning the Acros to my tank I had polyp extension.

Where did you get the Bayer?

Proteus 05-20-2014 01:58 AM

Agreed on the coral Rx. I lost my deep waters after three weeks of dipping.

Reefer Rob 05-20-2014 02:50 AM

You have to get Bayer in the states. Any of the home supply outlets will have it.

nerdz 05-20-2014 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 897696)
Where did you get the Bayer?

I didn't realize it wasn't available in Canada... Out of convenience, since I was already there, I picked mine up in Lowes in Bellingham Wa.

Madreefer 05-20-2014 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nerdz (Post 897715)
I didn't realize it wasn't available in Canada... Out of convenience, since I was already there, I picked mine up in Lowes in Bellingham Wa.

So you just ask for Bayer? Might have to grab some when I go south just in case.

Sebae again 05-20-2014 05:09 AM

What is the dosage per gallon ?

Wheelman76 05-20-2014 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Madreefer (Post 897719)
So you just ask for Bayer? Might have to grab some when I go south just in case.

Here's what it looks like Bill
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/20/2epa4ybe.jpg

Reefer Rob 05-20-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebae again (Post 897735)
What is the dosage per gallon ?

There's a lot of differing opinions on dose, I used 5ml per litre. Shake it well before use, it really settles.

Madreefer 05-20-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 897741)

Cool thanks bud

StirCrazy 05-21-2014 01:20 PM

Brad, didn't we use iodine to kill them last time you had them?

Steve

Aquattro 05-21-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 897857)
Brad, didn't we use iodine to kill them last time you had them?

Steve

Only time I had them was in my 150, before we knew what they were. When I found them, I just put them back in the tank. Nothing bad happened in that tank.

sumpfinfishe 05-21-2014 03:12 PM

Brad!, how about using the cube as an sps garden only, keep your old tank running for your fish and remaining non sps corals, then you have the best of both worlds with only small added maintenance:biggrin:

Aquattro 05-21-2014 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sumpfinfishe (Post 897863)
Brad!, how about using the cube as an sps garden only, keep your old tank running for your fish and remaining non sps corals, then you have the best of both worlds with only small added maintenance:biggrin:

Give me your number, I'll have my wife call and explain why we're not having two tanks :)
Seriously, one is enough. Going smaller will reduce work and costs. It will be a SPS only tank (with perhaps a purple torch) and use only my nicest pieces. No overcrowding, and design based on color and growth patterns. I have a lot of tabling pieces to incorporate, so pretty excited to get started. Just waiting on some numbers from Denny :)

sumpfinfishe 05-21-2014 03:48 PM

Hey isn't your dog house out back big enough for the cube:mrgreen:

StirCrazy 05-24-2014 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 897859)
Only time I had them was in my 150, before we knew what they were. When I found them, I just put them back in the tank. Nothing bad happened in that tank.

no no no, we were looking at them with your microscope, we were scraping coral and dipping them, we spent 4 or 5 hours on it one day and yes it was in one of your older tanks, befor you moved to the condo.

Steve

Aquattro 05-24-2014 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 898250)
no no no, we were looking at them with your microscope, we were scraping coral and dipping them, we spent 4 or 5 hours on it one day and yes it was in one of your older tanks, before you moved to the condo.

Steve

Right. The 150g at the old house. Don't recall caring enough to scrape. But that was too long ago and I'm getting old -lol

Wheelman76 05-24-2014 05:52 AM

What size are you thinking about Brad?

Aquattro 05-24-2014 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 898263)
What size are you thinking about Brad?

36x30x24, single 400w radium over it.

Wheelman76 05-24-2014 06:14 AM

I just finished setting up my new tank , 36"x30"x20" tall. Will be sps only with lots of flow , bare bottom and I have the 36" 8 bulb ATI hybrid light over it. Loving the dimensions of this tank

Aquattro 05-24-2014 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheelman76 (Post 898265)
I just finished setting up my new tank , 36"x30"x20" tall. Will be sps only with lots of flow , bare bottom and I have the 36" 8 bulb ATI hybrid light over it. Loving the dimensions of this tank

Sorry, the pics didn't show up :)

Proteus 05-24-2014 02:27 PM

Brad with a 400w how high would you hang that light. there's alot of lumens beaming down. In my shallow tank its 12" with a 250w

Aquattro 05-24-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Proteus (Post 898279)
Brad with a 400w how high would you hang that light. there's alot of lumens beaming down. In my shallow tank its 12" with a 250w

Not sure. Probably 10 or 12 inches. Height will be determined by spread. Using a lumenarc reflector, so spread should be enough for most of the area. Not too concerned with intensity, the corals can handle it fine. Supplementing with 2 T5 superblue for pre/post daylight.

Reefer Rob 05-24-2014 03:35 PM

Why not a 36" cube? Your halide light pattern is square anyway :wink:

Aquattro 05-24-2014 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rob (Post 898289)
Why not a 36" cube? Your halide light pattern is square anyway :wink:

Too big, would stick out too far into the room. I had a 36" cube frag tank, and found it tough to work in.

StirCrazy 05-24-2014 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquattro (Post 898290)
Too big, would stick out too far into the room. I had a 36" cube frag tank, and found it tough to work in.

you should see if my old tank is still floating around vic somewhere not being used.

Steve

Aquattro 05-24-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy (Post 898308)
you should see if my old tank is still floating around vic somewhere not being used.

Steve

Too small

hillegom 05-25-2014 06:53 AM

Brad,If you want some of that Bayer insecticide, I have some.
Just picked it up yesterday. Have any friends coming to the lower mainland?

Aquattro 05-25-2014 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hillegom (Post 898383)
Brad,If you want some of that Bayer insecticide, I have some.
Just picked it up yesterday. Have any friends coming to the lower mainland?

Thanks, but the RPS is good for my purposes. I'll just be taking frags off colonies and treating, then add to new tank.

Aquattro 06-07-2014 08:47 PM

Just an update. I have removed several frags and just took out the 5 largest colonies I had. Dipped everything, no worms to be found. Seems they might stay localized to some corals before reaching epidemic levels. Weird.

Also weird is looking at my tank with half the coral bio-load missing :)

sumpfinfishe 06-07-2014 08:56 PM

Thats great news Brad!
Dont worry tho with your grown rates it will fill up in no time!
And no thats "not what she said" lol :mrgreen:

Aquattro 06-07-2014 08:58 PM

Rich, this tank is on it's way out, so no, it won't fill very quickly :) But hopefully the frags going into the new tank will!

sumpfinfishe 06-07-2014 09:01 PM

Yes i know the "cube" mission.
That's what i was getting at, the new cube will be full before you know it!

Aquattro 06-07-2014 09:08 PM

Ah. Well, it will take a couple years to get to where I'm happy, but it's been a long time coming. Exciting doing a new build!

WarDog 06-08-2014 12:48 AM

Sorry to hear about the flatworms.

I see on your new build you will have a Zeo system. Were you not using it on the tank you are tearing down? Did you use the flatworm stop? Has anybody used it?
I ask because I am starting my system with Zeo and I was planning to use the flatworm stop from the get go.
Guess I am asking if your flatworm problem could have been avoided if you used this product (without being insensitive about your losses)?
Following along with the new build!

Proteus 06-08-2014 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WarDog (Post 900531)
Sorry to hear about the flatworms.

I see on your new build you will have a Zeo system. Were you not using it on the tank you are tearing down? Did you use the flatworm stop? Has anybody used it?
I ask because I am starting my system with Zeo and I was planning to use the flatworm stop from the get go.
Guess I am asking if your flatworm problem could have been avoided if you used this product (without being insensitive about your losses)?
Following along with the new build!


Flatworm stop does not stop the flatworms from existing. It makes the tissue of the coral thicker giving a bit more resistant. Also flatworm stop needs a min of three months before you may see a benefit

It's also good for richer colors

Aquattro 06-08-2014 01:38 AM

Zeo has nothing to do with flatwormStop, and no, I haven't used it. As Proteus said, it doesn't stop them, just slows them down. Using it for no reason sounds expensive, and I think the money is better spent on dip and a magnifying glass. Dipping all incoming pieces, every.single.time should avoid them. I go them because I missed dipping a couple pieces that I shortly after realized were infected. I thought I'd got the affected frag out in time, but apparently not :)

As for losses, I've only lost one full piece, and half of another. So far no other coral has shown them after dipping.


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