Did I miss something? Did you get the paperwork?

From his post, it sounds like Nick got some information. I hope it is good as I have Jebao pumps myself. I'm sure he will post when he has an opportunity.

If indeed everything is good...then I think it would be interesting to look back on the posts here at the "I know" statements and the "illegal" statements and consider how quickly people can jump to conclusions and things get out of hand. When we look at even the confusion and lack of true knowledge that the inspector had on the Canadacorals warehouse build thread, we see how things get blown out of proportion when there was no reason for it. Just my 2 cents.

When i posted that last night i was just assuming that people are being over reacting weiners and that it seemed silly to assume fraud just because some unknown person said that something that looks very legit coming from a company with more then 10 years history in pumps(mostly pond early on) may be forged.

But this morning i got an email from the Jebao rep i deal with and i have some links to calm the folks down a bit.

One thing i did learn is that the adjustable power supplies (as an add on and not included with pump) are not ul or cul and even though i don't find that to be a problem and will keep running mine i will remove them from sale as i don't want to get involved in supplying people with something that may be even 1% unsafe. Especially when i am selling them as an add on at my cost as a convenience for my customers.

Here is Certification for the wp25/wp40/wp60 power supply:

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...439&sequence=1

And here are some other links to certs in case you were wondering about other Jebao pumps and may be concerned:


Power supplies:

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...441&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...439&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...441&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...439&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...439&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...370&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...372&sequence=1

Pumps:

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...773&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...593&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...775&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...777&sequence=1

Low Voltage Pumps and lighting:

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...345&sequence=1

http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/t...347&sequence=1

Hope this helps.

Thanks

And that ladies and gentlemen is how one silences that!

Thanks Nick for putting this to rest.

Personally I see this as nothing more than a smear campaign by someone that prides them self on spending $3500 on power heads.

Hey Nick, your the only supplier of Jebao wavemakers that has chimed in on this thread and got the info for folks to read and put their minds at ease.
Good on you man! :sad2:

Jebao is a major distributor of pond pumps to many big box retailers so you can be sure they got their certs straight. The saltwater line make up a very small portion of their products.

Exactly. Who started this??

It was me, i had the file in my back pocket the whole time and wanted to look the hero :twised:

If you look at most non mainstream china products, like led lights (zetlights, evergrow..par38 led etc), pumps, they at the minimal use a ce certification label. A higher tier main stream product that sells at higher end stores, they put in ul for the american market. To put a csa, well, the canadian market is so small, they dont bother - saving a few hundred to few thousand dollars for the certification is the probable interest of these companies. If the do past ce and ul, it is probably good enough for the canadian market but insurance companies will weasel out of any claims due to damage/fire.

Does anyone have a rope I could borrow??...... Hold on i will use the chain around my ankle, Thanks.

Thanks Nick. Appreciate the extra effort you went to quiet this smear campaign based on rumour and pure speculation.

MODS, could you please change the title of this thread to something like:

"Jebao Pumps - PROVEN LEGAL!"

Otherwise, for people who don't read through to the end will assume there is something to the baseless accusations.

Thanks,

Anthony

Can we get one single example of this happening ever??

Burn him, he's a witch!!!!!

omg guys, this thread has been an emotional roller coaster ! First I'm like, WHOA, are they illegal ?! Then I'm like WHOA!! Michael assures me that they ARE illegal! Then I'm like whoa.... they totally are legal. I need to go watch some lolcats now.

CE is a self certification process though so I would not put as much stock in that as I would in UL or CSA. But I have heard some Chinese companies will send well built examples for UL certification and then skimp and swap cheaper components for the production runs. Not saying Jebao does this but I have heard of it happening.

So many haters... glad to see this one worked out for the good guys! I'm sure all them mp40s and tunze parts came out of the same factory.

Say, was that statement from that electrician or whomever get deleted? Don't see it anymore... I was just wondering if that guy that came out stating that these are Illegal was a certified person or was just someone who bought his/her diploma off Ebay...

Are we going to see a counter or explanation from Aqua Digital?? I see their post is gone.....

Thanks to everyone who got involved in this! Great thread!!

I am not sure what everyone is so mad about. I started this thread because I heard somethings from vendors and hobbyists both on facebook/email/forums and even a local store told me he wasn't sure. I didn't want to name people as this thread is not about going out and slamming people for something they said without proof. I simply was asking a question, just like many other threads.

Nick came through with the paperwork and I applaud him for it.

The point of this thread was the squash the rumors and put people minds at ease (if they were worried, I know most of you don't care about certifications).

Again, thank you Nick

I started the thread with a question to a concern I had.

Hey someone had to post it.

Hey mods can I pay a sponsor fee to be able to delete my old posts as well. :)

Burn him, he's a witch!!

He can't do that. He specifically asked Titus to remove it for him. I'm not sure the reasoning behind it.

LOL

Look below, do I look like a witch?

:mrgreen:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0/IMG_1640.JPG

Not in the typical sense, no. And if you're gonna ride that broom, don't sit on the wrong end.

You sure wreaked a lot of damage with that teeny weeny auger. Nice! :biggrin:

Legal reasons... potential libel.

I'm not mad, but a little upset that there wasn't a poll attached to this thread. A poll might have settled this debate. But I suppose hard evidence works too.

I'm actually intimidated to read through 12 pages of ANY thread. I'm also not really adding to the body of knowledge to this thread. I just had to comment though:

#1.) If you knew how tall/big Dave actually was.....that auger is MORE impressive. lol

#2.) Please tell me you're going to be doing some "Santa Claus" theme this season. lol Or at least some lumberjack event/party. lol

#3.) If you have the good fortune to trade corals with him......if he describes it as "palm sized" or "fist sized"......TAKE IT and run.

Nice to see it go from :fencing: to group :hug:
:biggrin:

I understand the post was pulled due to legal reasons of an ongoing investigation into the certification of hard wired pumps into tanks as they may still not be covered under the class 2 act ESA have yet to clarify.

Can someone tell me if the ce is ok? My cad lights skimmer has just that on it. I'm worried now!

nope, your going to go to jail if caught using it, Lucky for you I am an authorized non-compliant equipment disposal outlet, so if you PM me I'll send you my address and I will get rid of it for you. :wink:

Steve

Interesting...

I haven't figured out the multi quote feature of the forum, so I'll have to 'refer' to my last statement in post #79, for those who care to go back & read it. Ideally, no electrical cords in the water if at all possible. And I'll reiterate that a sticker on a component is no absolute guarantee an electrical component is immune to failure & exactly how it is going to fail. I'm fairly certain if you search on 'product recall', you'll find plenty of horror stories about certified electrical gizmos being poorly engineered, manufactured or assembled. If the certification is that much of a concern to anyone, it might be time to look for another hobby.

Nice... lol

Ok everyone can we be done now! :mmph:

This is what I love about the reefing community. Steve is ready and willing to help out a fellow reefer with his illegal equipment. Way to go Steve!!!!

Pretty sure this was done yesterday.

Hope so!!! Thanks Brad