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bmo 07-16-2012 10:02 AM

nice corals// to be honest everyone who starts saltwater jumps right in we all made the same mistakes even when we were told wait 2 months before adding anythign we all added something at 6 weeks ** i didint add for 4 months but i was lazy **, its ok this is how we learn/ personally i dont post much i normally just private message/ but guys you need to go easy on him// he is learning his corals are doing fine// he will prob need to do 4 water changes over the next two weeks of around 20% or so to balance out everything, but besides that its fine. its his money its really his choice and if the store is telling him its fine then well it does not matter what we think does it? when the pro's he went to told him already// ** just like when your car has problems you dont trust the people on some random forum you trust the pros and if they do their tests and say its ok then who are we to judge? yes the store wants to make money but still... but besides that nice start to your tank// iv had mine for around two and a half years now your moving much faster then me lol, i only have one reef lobster in mine but im a fan of the reef over the fish, and no fish = less water changes :D which makes me happy good luck with your pair of clowns,

reefwars 07-16-2012 10:31 AM

my other post is a lamborghini:mrgreen:

scherzo 07-16-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 731355)
If a cuc nuked your tank, guess what? The test kits probably won't be able to test for the nasties it released. They will test for stuff like Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates, pH, and some trace minerals maybe. But they won't have test kits for the toxic stuff that a cuc releases when it dies.

Also, Ammonia & Nitrites should always be at ZERO before any livestock goes in the tank. Some Nitrates & phosphates are "okay", but not Ammonia & Nitrites.

I mentioned this when I came over to test the water. I only tested the water for ammonia because I knew that all of the death would likely cause an ammonia spike. Which it did (.5).

Get ammonia down, then nitrite and nitrate, and then you'll be good to go.

He was running carbon through a few HOBs that he added for extra flow so he probably sucked out most of the toxins now.

Keep running the carbon and maybe change it out a few times.

He also has an HOB skimmer which seemed to be skimming just fine and pulled out some gunk after the crash.

mohammadali 07-17-2012 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic (Post 731359)
Your test kits are more for every day, long term use, IMO, as opposed to mainly to test for right now (post-cuc-nuke). Use them to check regularly over the next several months till your tank matures and recovers fully from the cuc-nuke.

whats IMO ?
and how do i check the cuc nuke ?

mohammadali 07-17-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmo (Post 731362)
nice corals// to be honest everyone who starts saltwater jumps right in we all made the same mistakes even when we were told wait 2 months before adding anythign we all added something at 6 weeks ** i didint add for 4 months but i was lazy **, its ok this is how we learn/ personally i dont post much i normally just private message/ but guys you need to go easy on him// he is learning his corals are doing fine// he will prob need to do 4 water changes over the next two weeks of around 20% or so to balance out everything, but besides that its fine. its his money its really his choice and if the store is telling him its fine then well it does not matter what we think does it? when the pro's he went to told him already// ** just like when your car has problems you dont trust the people on some random forum you trust the pros and if they do their tests and say its ok then who are we to judge? yes the store wants to make money but still... but besides that nice start to your tank// iv had mine for around two and a half years now your moving much faster then me lol, i only have one reef lobster in mine but im a fan of the reef over the fish, and no fish = less water changes :D which makes me happy good luck with your pair of clowns,

yea i know didnt wait for 2 months i think i started putting livestock in my tank after 2 or 3weeks :D and everthing was fine untill once i got Ich cuz i bought a yellow tang during the boxingday .
and now my 2nd problem is cuc nuke that i have to deal with before my pair clown fish was doing great like they were fatest clownfish i have ever seen in my life and my goal is to breed clown fish in reef :) thanks for the wish .
i will do water change 2 times a week .

mohammadali 07-17-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefwars (Post 731363)
my other post is a lamborghini:mrgreen:

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i hope ur next post is a bugatti
thanks for the advise :D

scherzo 07-17-2012 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mohammadali (Post 731643)
whats IMO ?
and how do i check the cuc nuke ?

IMO means "In My Opinion"

You can't test for the "Cucumber toxic stuff". You just have to check for other things to see if it is safe to add more livestock.

Start with ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate.

Basically what happens if you start a new tank or have massive death is that your tank will produce ammonia (which is really bad for livestock - it would be the equivalent to trying to live in a room filled with smoke from a house fire - you might not die right away - but it will be painful to your lungs)

Then the ammonia will change to nitrite - then over time the nitrite will change to nitrate which is less harmful to the livestock.

That is why we test for those things.

All other tests are secondary - Calcium, Alk, Magnesium, Phosphates are for the health of corals but many can just tell something is up by looking at how happy they are.

Don't worry about pH so much. I know you have a pH test kit but it doesn't tell you too much.

mohammadali 07-17-2012 03:46 PM

okay ill keep doing water change for the next 2 weeks then ill go test my water

Megalodon 07-17-2012 07:17 PM

Don't bother getting a nitrite test kit if money is tight. Nitrite isn't as nearly as toxic in seawater as some people believe. For the nitrogen cycle, worry about ammonia, and because it accumulates, nitrate.

mohammadali 07-17-2012 09:21 PM

im getting this 4 test kit pH, ammonia, nitrite, nitrate
this is a package test kit


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