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Please state your reference that said that Paraguard is carcinogen and burn the skin of the fish??

I use it all the time and I never saw a fish being burned, quite the opposite. I use it to treat disease for weeks and never saw any burnt skin, not even in concentrated bath.

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Originally Posted by TimT (Post 653077)

I prefer to try and stay away from chemical meds whenever possible due to them usually containing carcinogenic components.

There are several advantages to a FW bath over a Paraguard bath for fish that are healthy and strong.

1. FW is free.
2. FW is non toxic
3. FW does not need to be disposed of in an environmentally safe manner
4. FW is not a carcinogen
5. FW will not stain your skin, clothes or the aquarium silicone
6. FW works no matter what the concentration
7. FW is safe for human consumption :-) Important if you have young kids.
8. FW does not leave a fish injured
9. FW does not stress a fish by burning it's gills and skin like Paraguard does.

I have observed lots of fish show no stress reaction at all when going into a FW bath. Even anthias and fairy wrasses don't freak out. I can only remember two fish going into shock out of 100's that I have given FW baths too. One was a rabbitfish and the other a pacific sailfin. I have only lost 4 or 5 due to pre existing ick infections that were quite severe. As a wholesaler I have been doing FW baths on fish for about 10 years so have done a lot of them.

If a fish is in a weakened condition due to parisitization then a hyposalinity treatment in a QT may be a better option.

Fresh water dip is the most dangerous, stressful thing you can do to a fish. Been there done that... temperature, PH balance, etc etc, it wasn't pretty. Better to do a hypo salinity treatment... and carefully... if you treat at all. The only time I've lost fish is during treatments :surprise:

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rob (Post 653123)

I tend to disagree! There are some things that can only be killed quick and effectivly by a FW dip. Case and point marine velvet isnt killed by hypo but a FW dip does it in 5 min
I have NEVER lost a fish in a dip and dipped every single fish I have ever got for 5 min or more

I dip all new humans entering my house for at least 10min.

Never a fish, seems like it would stress it out to much

Yes, I dipped lots of fish too. I thought it was great. Then there was the one fish... it was a heart breaker. I haven't done it since.

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Originally Posted by MarkoD (Post 653152)

I dip all new humans entering my house for at least 10min.

Never a fish, seems like it would stress it out to much

If that's a tequila dip I'm in! :mrgreen:

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rob (Post 653158)

If that's a tequila dip I'm in! :mrgreen:

BYOS (bring your own snorkel)

A freshwater dip will not cure broklynella, so it is not the best way to make sure a fish is parasite free I guess.

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Originally Posted by rastaangel (Post 653146)

I know a FW dip isnt the be all to end all cure but thats not the point of this... Its would you add a tang to your display from the LFS with just a FW dip and no QT