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Delphinus 11-09-2010 05:56 AM

I use fishing line to hold a 4" piece of 1/2" PVC. I roll the nori over the clip so that the tangs have to graze the nori instead of mow the nori. I used a clip for a few years until I noticed a huge difference in how fat my tangs were at the time compared to the tangs of those who fed them by rolling the nori over a pipe instead. Now people tell ME I have fat tangs and I'm all "Thanks! It's the rolled up nori that's the secret."

The problem is holding it down to the PVC, I criss cross an elastic over top of the nori and that works except that the elastics only last a few days for me. If I'm lucky, it breaks when I put it on and I just replace it. But otherwise it ends up in the tank or apparently in a tang.

Hmmm I wonder if O-rings would work better. Two of them, one on each edge and just roll it onto the nori. Might have to give that a whirl..

lastlight 11-09-2010 03:21 PM

Tony what about the easyblade attachment? instead of a blade just feed some nori into it?

Ross 11-09-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 563257)
Hmmm I wonder if O-rings would work better.


Thats what I was thinking, O-rings or Reusable Zip ties.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#zip-ties/=9n9580

This style one is what I was thinking of.

http://images1.mcmaster.com/Contents...g?ver=17738846

Delphinus 11-09-2010 05:33 PM

That's an awesome idea!! Gonna have to go pick up some of those! Thanks!

Brett - not bad either except I see that working better for just having the nori loose - I feel very strongly that the nori has to be rolled over the PVC pipe (think of a sushi roll but instead of rice or whatever inside, it's a PVC pipe). The tangs have to earn their nori by scraping it off the PVC. What happens this way is that no one fish can make off like a bandit with the day's allotment of nori so everyone who wants some, gets some (how very socialist of me - I blame my Swedish ancestry), there is also far less mess produced and the amount of nori actually "harvested" by the fish is much larger. And, the last little bits get picked up by the urchins and/or abalone - rolling it is really a win in my opinion..

mike31154 11-09-2010 05:37 PM

I use a regular nori clip attached to an acrylic bracket that I fashioned with a heat gun. The bracket hangs on the rim of the tank fairly close to my autofeeder. I tried the elastic scenario on a piece of live rock and didn't really like the way that worked. I also read about the pvc method but that seemed like too much hassle as well with the elastic issues as you've experienced. Inevitably I didn't do a good job of wrapping the elastic and tang man would tear it right off it's mooring. The clip has its cons, but at least it secures the nori fairly well. I soak the nori just a little and fold it in half before putting it in the clip with just a little protruding. This means every so often I need to pull the clip out and expose a little more nori, but with the bracket set up that's fairly easy and very little gets wasted that way.

I experimented with chopping up dry nori and putting it in the auto feeder with the flakes & pellets, but that didn't work all that well. Seems the bits of nori floating around with the flakes somehow didn't spark the interest with the two fish that regularly take nori. My yellow tang & singapore angel are just too accustomed to taking it from the clip now and mostly ignored the nori that floated with the flake food. Might still do this if I'm away for a few days. The tang will go after the last remnant of nori from the clip when I release that into the water, but usually there aren't a bunch of flakes floating around to distract him when I do this.

Here's the bracket with clips. I only use a single clip since I don't have that many veggie eaters in my system. All you need is a heat gun or torch, scrap acrylic and a nylon screw. I tapped the acrylic so the screw threads right in. The screw head holds the clip quite loosely so it dangles to and fro, like real algae in the ocean. The tang & angel seem to enjoy making it bounce when they tear away at it.

http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/...31c.JPG?psid=1

Milad 11-11-2010 05:46 PM

here are some crappy IPhone shots
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2361330/Aqua...Clip/Nori1.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2361330/Aqua...Clip/Nori2.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2361330/Aqua...Clip/Nori3.jpg

Delphinus 11-11-2010 05:54 PM

I like that. So you don't find that there is a lot of messy nori bits floating off into the water column that way? That was one of the things that pushed me to roll it over a pipe in the first place. But I just lost yet another elastic last night.. the tangs must really be picking at them harshly, that one only lasted about 2 days. No idea where this one ended up, couldn't see it anywhere.

365seasons 11-11-2010 05:55 PM

We use hair elastics. The ones with no metal of course. They're thin enough not to be a pain in the butt with nori getting left over, but don't break (easily, at least) and are never touched if they do fall.

Milad 11-11-2010 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus (Post 563876)
I like that. So you don't find that there is a lot of messy nori bits floating off into the water column that way? That was one of the things that pushed me to roll it over a pipe in the first place. But I just lost yet another elastic last night.. the tangs must really be picking at them harshly, that one only lasted about 2 days. No idea where this one ended up, couldn't see it anywhere.

i fold the nori several times and clip it right in the middle so they cant take big junks. There isnt much nori floating around in the water so its not biggie to me. One thing i hate about it is when they poop. Then there is a bunch of nori all over the place for a bit. Ive been trying to feed before i go to work so then i dont have to deal with the poop nori because the filters pick it up.

Milad 11-11-2010 06:00 PM

here is a glimpse of my LMB tarzaning, hes a bit shy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMzwzClbTgE


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