For sure they are.:rofl: Like comparing a Kia to a Cadillac. But I can bet it will do a much better job than the Remora.

Remora C
 

Gold's in Calgary has them for I belive for $200 or there about.
I just love mine. It did take a few weeks for it to start working.

Holy smokes....lol
what a read.

I know you're new to reefing, don't let people like this put you off of it.
People go through a lot of trials and tribulations in reefing and you'll come across extremist views all over the place due to how hard reefers work to get to their ideal set up and also due to lessons learned through their own individual experiences.

Be careful when you are asking general questions like this on sites like this.
The best bet is to do the best that you can with the resources you have available.

My 1st tank was a sumpless 32 gallon bowfront, heavily stocked with a prizm HOB skimmer and no sump, just a rena xp1 packed with live rock.

My next real jump was to a 72 gallon, it was sumpless initially and I was still using that Prizm skimmer but I went out and bought one of those "horrible siphon overflows" and upgraded to a euroreef RS80 to put in my new 15 gallon sump. (as a side note, I have used 2 different siphon overflows, one of which I built myself and BOTH of them have never lost siphon and have never stopped working through power outages and countless maintenance pump shutdowns...plus they take up less realestate and are mch quiter than many internal overflows).

I upgraded from there to a multitude of tanks and finally broke everything down into my main display now, which is a 95 gallon with an external siphon overflow I built and a 60 gallon acrylic sump. I've spent a tonne of money on equipment now, like a wavebox, tunze powerheads, a calcium reactor pakage, a schuran skimmer and an aquacontroller and would I sit here and say that my current system is any better than that first 30 gallon?

NO.

I've learned a lot and paced myself according to the money and time I had to put in to this hobby.
sometimes that meant wasted resources or backtracking on some progress made in order to accomodate a new upgrade that I just couldn't afford or understand the necessity of prior to that but it worked for me and I have enjoyed my genesis through this hobby immensely.

So try and filter opinions from facts and make sure you don't let anyone tell you what you can and can't do...just get out there, get reefing and start learning....

You think I'm an extremist? :lol: Thanks for the morning laugh.

Some equipment (like say a Prizm skimmer) are money best spent elsewhere. They aren't worth the money you spend on them. I've been in this hobby a lot longer than you gobytron. I remember when underground filters were all the rave, and no one knew what a powerhead was or why you would want one. J&L Aquatics didn't exist, and neither did The Conscientious Marine Aquarist (book). I have spent a lot of money and a lot of years getting the experiences I have now. Don't be so hasty to rub prejudice on my suggestions.

And I wonder why I didn't miss CanReef when I quit posting on here in January. Oh right...@$$holes like gobytron. Now I remember.

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Basically fishgirl, my biggest suggestion for you as a novice reefer is to drill the tank before you ever set it up (whether you plug the holes or not) because you will probably regret it if you don't. Put up a poll, many people later regret not drilling their tank. My next main suggestion is if budget is a concern, don't spend money on equipment that you plan to replace in a year (like an HOB skimmer) since you will lose a lot of money on it when you go to sell it in a year. If you can find a used HOB skimmer that may be your best option then you won't lose so much money when you move on in a year.

How do you know how long I've been in this hobby for?...lol

And no one is denying your awesomeness Myka, so please continue to share your open mind and unbiased opinions.



If you'd like, I could send you pictures of the amount of skimmate my prizm (thats prizm, not prizm pro) pulled from tanks in the past.


I wouldn't deny it's no Deltec, I run a Deltec right now BUT...
I didn't always have 800 bucks to drop on a skimmer, there was a time when I only had 20$ and you know what?

At that time, there was no better skimmer out there than that trusty Red Sea Prizm skimmer.

You're welcome for the laugh Myka, I owe you for so many I have had in reading your many comments on thsi site over the years.:mrgreen:

How are my opinions biased? Do you think I own shares in EuroReef or something? :rolleyes:

You can win this fight...you can have your soapbox back. Ciao.

Well....lol
I guess now you could say we are even...lol

You're biased based on your experiences Myka, not on ownership of a company...we all are.

It's just that some people tend to forget that an opinion is a biased thing and that it's not always applicable to those in different situations, with different expectations and different resources.
When this happens, people try and pass of personal opinons based on personal experiences as fact...which it is not.

Thank you for letting me borrow your soap box, I appreciate how warm you have kept it....:wink:

Maybe if you didn't regard a difference of opinions as a "fight" that someone must "win" you might find a little more ease in expressing yourself...
just a thought...
and a biased one at that...lol

OH MY I didn't mean to start anything on here, I appreciate ALL comments and suggestions it doesn't mean I'll do them all I am just trying to learn the best way to do something so if I go cheaper now based on some opinions and do the more expensive later on it still came from all you wonderful ppl in then end. SO here is my next question where can I get my tank drilled properly without it killing my pocket. Does anyone here know how to do it and has experience and is there away you could come here and do it so I don't have to hall this tank out of the house again??? thanks again for all your help and advice.

Jenn

You didn't start anything Jenn, it happens around here often all by itself. It seems people get their panties in a twist if you don't say "In my opinion" or "In my experiences" at the beginning of every paragraph. :rolleyes:

Try talking to Kevin at Red Coral for drilling your tank. I'm not sure what he charges, but in my experiences (lol) $20-30 per hole is fairly typical. If you do decide to drill the tank, put some time into planning and deciding what type of drain you want even if you don't install it right now. Kevin should be able to help you with that too.

Funny huh?
when adding 3 words can make such a big difference...
an as for bunched panties, these were on the soapbox when I got here:lol:


You might consider a siphon overflow until you move.
even the people who strongly advocate against them might agree that as a temporary solution until you move and can have your tank drilled while you are moving (or even buy a new system that is pre drilled and sell your old one).

Ask around and I think you will find that most people who hate on the siphon overflow haven't actually used one or didnt have it set up properly...

Here's a link to a very high quality one that you can look at if you want to consider an alternative to drilling right now, keeping in mind you can often pick these up for under 50$.
http://lifereef.com/frame.html

If not, you might want to post your question about where to get drilled in the Alberta forum so that you get the question to an audience who could best answer you from experience...