Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board - Difference between 1.5" and 2" drain in overflow

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christyf5

01-20-2010 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 483465)

The 1.25" pipe goes all the way through (it's one piece) and acts as the secondary or back up drain. It's supported inside the 2" pipe by the bushing.

The primary drain is created by the 2" pipe. Water flows in between the 2" and 1.25" pipe and then through the gate valve. The gate valve is used to match the flow rate to the return pump and adjust the water level in the overflow box to just below the top of the 1.25" pipe. It's just like a standard herbie but the back up drain is inside the primary.

Make sense?

Yep we use something like that in our tanks at work (DFO), only the "inner pipe doesn't go all the way through, it sits in the bushing and has a hole in it at the level we want the tank at, reducing the flow. To flush the tank we pull up on the inner pipe and the flow is increased dramatically and sucks out all the detritus.

Cool, thats definitely something to investigate further. Thanks for the info!! :biggrin:

Reefer Rob

01-20-2010 08:36 PM

What an ingenious little bit of plumbing! I have 2 holes in each overflow, so I don't need it personally, but I think a link to that should almost be a sticky somewhere.

One thing I was thinking. What about eliminating the 2" standpipe inside the overflow. This should increase the flow potential and reduce detritus buildup in the overflow... just a thought.

mark	01-20-2010 08:47 PM

sphelps,

any idea of the max gph?

untamed

01-20-2010 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 483449)

You can do a herbie with a single large hole (2") but if you're having issues finding parts for a 2" standpipe then building a single drain herbie will be a much greater challenge. Here's a drawing for reference, if it's really something you want I could probably build it for you and ship it to you.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a1...Herbiinone.jpg

I think that is brilliant! I certainly understand how that might work assuming you get adequate flow through the gap between the 1.25" and 2" pipes.

sphelps

01-20-2010 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reefer Rob (Post 483546)

What about eliminating the 2" standpipe inside the overflow. This should increase the flow potential and reduce detritus buildup in the overflow... just a thought.

If you did this then the full overflow box would drain when the flow is shut off, not always a good thing unless you have the sump volume, but an option for sure.

sphelps

01-20-2010 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark (Post 483550)

sphelps,

any idea of the max gph?

The cross sectional area between the 2" and the 1.25" pipe is very close to the area of a 1.25" pipe. So both the primary and secondary should each be capable of flowing what is typical for a 1.25" drain.

PoonTang

01-20-2010 11:47 PM

Christy I have some 2" here but not much, your welcome to it. How much do you need? Home Hardware etc. all sell it by the foot.

christyf5

01-21-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PoonTang (Post 483619)

Christy I have some 2" here but not much, your welcome to it. How much do you need? Home Hardware etc. all sell it by the foot.

Hmm the last time I was in there they sold it by a full piece or a half piece ("cuz once its cut its hard to sell"). Maybe I need to be male :confused: :razz:

I need about 4 feet I think.

Canadian

01-21-2010 04:13 AM

Christy,

You guys have an Andrew Sheret in Nanaimo. They should have anything you'd need. But they won't sell you pipe by the foot.

Here's the address:

2545 McCULLOUGH ROAD

superduperwesman

03-08-2010 11:01 PM

Can we sticky this... took me forever to find it today ahah

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