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Tailored Aquatics 08-31-2009 04:44 AM

That Is a huge system ...I agree. Once Nitrates are zero, a maintenance dose(the "week one" dose on bottle) would mean approx 30mls or less in 500gallons per day to maintain zero nitrates. It is available in very large sizes which make it quite cost efficient. The one gallon size would treat 500 gallons of water for nearly 6 months reducing the cost significantly per month or per 500ml bottle depending on how you look at it.
-Brad

fishoholic 08-31-2009 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tailored Aquatics (Post 444620)
That Is a huge system ...I agree. Once Nitrates are zero, a maintenance dose(the week one dose on bottle) would mean approx 30mls or less in 500gallons per day to maintain zero nitrates. It is available in very larger sizes which make it quite cost efficient. The one gallon size would treat 500 gallons of water for nearly 6 months reducing the cost significantly per month or per 500ml bottle depending on how you look at it.
-Brad

Didn't know it came in that large a size. Hummmm......

Treebeard 08-31-2009 05:16 AM

No wodka? Crap! I'm on my sixth harvey wallbanger! :drinking:

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Originally Posted by Tailored Aquatics (Post 444610)
Hey Guys,
No not to cover the smell of Vodka that isn’t in there in the first place :razz:… http://www.tailoredaquatics.com/index.html?a=0&d=63
-Brad/Tailored Aquatics


Tailored Aquatics 08-31-2009 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fishoholic (Post 444621)
Didn't know it came in that large a size. Hummmm......

Yes, most of the products like Calcium Plus, dKH Plus, Magnesium MG and Nitrate Destroyer come in one gallon sizes.
I even have dealers that order 5 gallon size buckets of products!

Tailored Aquatics 08-31-2009 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Treebeard (Post 444625)
No wodka? Crap! I'm on my sixth harvey wallbanger! :drinking:

lol...to funny :mrgreen:

o.c.d. 08-31-2009 02:30 PM

A Mr. Tailored Aquatics, So it being a trade secret I understand you can't give it up. But your Carbon source is just that a carbon source.Now yours is better, proof would help. Surely you have tested your product against other carbon sources. Would that data be a trade secret or a good selling feature? I think anyone who understands the chemistry involved to do what Vodka,Nitrate destroyer, and other carbon sources can achieve, would understand that Vodka is cheaper, more concentrated, and will essentially do the same thing. IMO all you have done is provided instructions on how to use your diluted carbon source.

sphelps 08-31-2009 02:56 PM

Just wanted to note that DIY methods are always cheaper, baking soda for example is way cheaper than any buffer but that doesn't mean you shouldn't buy buffers off the shelf. Some off us aren't chemists and dosing vodka may not be in there comfort zone. If I was going to go this route I would either dose a store bought product or lab grade ethenol.

naesco 08-31-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps (Post 444678)
Just wanted to note that DIY methods are always cheaper, baking soda for example is way cheaper than any buffer but that doesn't mean you shouldn't buy buffers off the shelf. Some off us aren't chemists and dosing vodka may not be in there comfort zone. If I was going to go this route I would either dose a store bought product or lab grade ethenol.

Or simply do water changes and live with a little nitrate which does no harm.

Wayne Ryan

fencer 08-31-2009 07:54 PM

Don't forget that Zeo and Ultra systems are based on nitrate reduction by bacteria also. Their programs are a little more systematic. I have used vodka to reduce nitrates (10 ml/100g/day) and it has worked. It was more to feed my SPS than for the latter. In case of Fishoholic's tanks...a massive cheato scrubber would be better. In the long run it is way cheaper. I like ozone(...yeah I know you don't steve)

Oceanic 08-31-2009 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by naesco (Post 444693)
or simply do water changes and live with a little nitrate which does no harm.

Wayne ryan

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