I'm not sure what we're right or wrong about ?? I was agreeing they aren't designed to be submerged, yet people do.

Whats the difference using heaters in salt vs fresh ? Salt creep penetrating ?

leaky and broken heaters, another reason for a GFI

EBO Jagers are submersable heaters, the funny thing is in canada they will say not to submerse them under water but in the US they are a submersable heater, I have used them for many years in both fresh and salt water tanks submersed, along with a few other brands. Having said that I will not use Ebo Jagers anymore, when they fail they have over an 80% change of failing on, along with most other heaters you can buy. and I cooked a frag tank that way.

I do like the titanium ones, which is funny as they even say not submersable on the package hehe, but I hat ones that were sold in the US so they worked :wink:

thee is also a new one which is ceramic and so far I like that one also.

Steve

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Another opinion.

I've gone through a couple of titanium heaters (with external controller) and both heaters failed on me so I gave up on them.

Currently using Stealth submerged heaters with no problems so far.

That is what my husband came home with today. It has an outside heat control and I feel much better about it now.