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Murminator 03-16-2006 07:44 PM

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Not in a 20G

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Originally Posted by TheReefGeek
I meant for his new tank, he said he is not adding any fish until he upgrades.

I really like my scissortail gobies they are colorfull, and the small fairy wrasses might do ok in your newer larger tank, although 45g is still pretty small for some of these fishies.

Do you have any LFS in calgary that quarantine their livestock for 2 weeks? I have never gotten a single disease or death from any fish I have gotten from a LFS here in Edmonton that does that.

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Originally Posted by TheReefGeek
or anthias maybe.


Ok not in a 45G :eek:

Bartman 03-16-2006 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by howdy20012002
In the reading i have done, you can apparently rid your tank of ick by having it without fish for a month
the parasites require a host to live.
Without the fish to host them, they apparently die.
Neal

Neal is right here. If your fish had Ick then your tank has Ick now. The stage where you can see spots on your fish is only one stage of Ick. Those spots, or spores, will fall off your fish and lay dormant for 4-5 weeks after which they will go looking for another host to start the cycle again. If there are no fish the Ick dies. If fish are present you have another 6 weeks of Ick. You can cure the fish but the only way to deal with Ick is to run your tank fishless for 6 weeks or more. When you switch to your new tank might be the ideal time to do this.

TheReefGeek 03-16-2006 07:53 PM

Small lyretail anthias would do fine, but they would outgrow the tank eventually.

Reefhawk1 03-16-2006 08:04 PM

You can keep some single Anthias in a 25 gallon tank depending on the species . Here is a link to some Anthias descriptions if anyone is interested.

http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/s...20&TopCatId=20

mr_alberta 03-16-2006 08:49 PM

A Six Line wrasse is a good nano fish. Relatively small, colorful, hardy and active. As long it is the last or one of the last fish you add it should be fine.

I agree with Murray on the Anthias though. May not be an ideal tank size for them. Also their feeding requirements dirty up the water pretty quick...

Old Guy 03-16-2006 09:07 PM

The way I see it is 1 inch of fish per five gals. 2 percs, ywg and a lmb already maxes out the new tank. The 20 is already overstocked and the flame probably died of an ammonia spike.

OCDP 03-16-2006 09:13 PM

I really like the 6 line wrasses and Royal Gramma's.

I always thought that 6 lines were really wimpy fish.. I just want something tough that if it gets a couple ick spots its not completely doomed...

Thank you all for the ick info. I will have to seriously consider leaving my tank fallow for 6 weeks. I mean.. if it rids me of ick, then GOOD.. it gives me better chances of success with fish. I just may be able to use my current 20g as a QT.

The weird thing is though......

All current fish in the tank have no ick whatsoever.. not a single spot... that inclues: 1 YWG, 1 Lawnmower Blenny and 2 True Percula clowns

Anyways, thanks again guys.. I have some thinking to do.

TheReefGeek 03-16-2006 09:22 PM

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The way I see it is 1 inch of fish per five gals. 2 percs, ywg and a lmb already maxes out the new tank. The 20 is already overstocked and the flame probably died of an ammonia spike.
I don't agree with that at all.

The "per inch" thing is very rough, some fish are long and skinny and eat very little, some are short and fat and eat like pigs.

It also depends on how much you feed the fish, because fish make waste in proportion to how much you feed them.

Also it depends on the tank and the equipment. With a good amount of live rock and sand for bacteria to grow on, and a good skimmer, you can go WAY over that and not experience an ammonia spike. I had a 50g up for a year with 13 fish totalling about 20-25inches, and never lost a single fish.

Xtasia 03-16-2006 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by howdy20012002
In the reading i have done, you can apparently rid your tank of ick by having it without fish for a month
the parasites require a host to live.

I've read this too... but they say 6 weeks to acheive the full life cycle. Some say to turn up the heat a few degrees too in an effort to speed up the process. Better to err on the side of caution. I'd clear all your fish out, run the UV if oyu have one and let all the things in your existing tank run fishless for 6 weeks before transferring it into your new tank.

OCDP 03-16-2006 09:38 PM

This sounds like the best idea.. and the smartest time to do so.

While leaving the tank fishless... do I need to treat any of my current fish?? Read the above post for more info.. none of them show signs of ick, ever.

Thanks Xtasia.


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