OH THEY ARE THERE! I woke up this morning to see around 100 babies swimming around! I'm so excited... I dont understand.. I couldn't see them anywhere in the tank, I thought for sure they were eatten! I see them now! they are free swimming little babies!!

I'm just so nervous I need to find some brine! ahh is this what parents feel like with their first child?!

I guess it's day 6!

LOL. The brine shrimp you will need have to be newley hatched brine shrimp other wise they will be to big for the fry. You could use one of those cheap small plug in coffee grinders and grind up flake food too. But not near as effective as Babby Brine Shrimp. Most of the Angelfish breeders us newley hatched Baby Brine Shrimp.
If you can locate someone in the Vancouver Area Killifish Club.Several members in thier club always have Baby Brine Shrimp on the go

The reason you may not have seen the eggs after a day. Is you were looking for them, at the site where they were originaly laid ,and the parents probably moved them.

Angels will move the eggs from one place to another as they clean them and weed out the bad eggs so they may have just been moved to another leaf or rock or what ever you have in the tank and that is why you didn't notice them. But the parents will still actively tend them and fan them
(Did you notice them hanging out in another part of the aquarium)

Good luck on feeding the fry

Uh... No angels don't usually move the EGGS. They will however move wrigglers around.

Some people have reasonable results with frozen BBS, but I've never found my fry take it very well. However, I have recently switched from daily fresh hatches to now hatching every 3-4 days, and refridgerating the BBS during use is just as effective as the fresh hatches.

Some breeders have also had success using vinegar eels, and microworms. I'm sure you could probably chase down a culture in a reasonably quick fashion. (Off the top of my head I can think of 2 people in vancouver with cultures to sell - shouldn't be too hard to find one).

If you're looking for better eggs, cheaper than at the pet store - regina111 on aquabid sells some nice big cans for 20some $ (His filters are awesome too)

Andy

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I would have to dissagree with you Andy On the moving eggs part. I have a pair of Angels that just last week moved the eggs on the second day from the slate to a anubius leaf. I will agree that they normaly wait till they are wrigglers But sometimes they do move thier eggs. Which I witnessed last week. But this could be due to unusual stress or them being spooked as I had alot of visitors just after they laid.

So it is entirley possible they would move thier eggs, and that would explain why she could not see the eggs after a day or so as she originaly could see the eggs But Thats just my opinion

I like your suggestion for the Vinegar eels or micro worms and you are absolutely correct she would probably find one of these cultures easier to find.


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Angelfish do not move eggs... They move wrigglers. Do a google search if you don't believe me, you'll find lots of links to artificial rearing, nothing to angelfish moving eggs. Once they're laid - there they will stay until eaten or hatched.

Andy

As a reference... Here's my angelfish breeding rack.

http://www.canreef.com/photopost/dat...rack050319.jpg

(Sorry about the won bro's boxes showing - didn't want to move them and **** off the marble pair again - their neighbours upset them to the point of eating fry/eggs every damn spawn - added those boxes last week and suddenly I have freeswimmers)

Andy

Actually. I suspect (because I just read it on a web page..) that because I used white PVC (I also had Slate, and Amazon Sword, but they chose the PVC to lay the eggs on), that it was difficult to see the eggs once they turned into squirmers. I couldn't tell they were there... I saw some brownish stuff on the pvc but I assumed it was residue from the angel's eating the eggs.. If I was a more diligent fishkeeper I would have stuck my hand in there and rubbed it off.. thank god for procrastination :P

I'm actually going to try something that I read in a book, works.. as a temp solution until I can track down some of that other stuff... And thats cooked egg yolk strained through muslim, then dissolved in water.... I'll let you know how/if it works....

Thanks for the insight.. more info is always awesome. Tips. etc..

I specifically left out egg yolk...

Make sure you do a w/c right away after - stuffs as bad as liquifry for fouling the water.

Andy

I need help!
 

I need help! I've hatched brine around 20 hours ago and I see little wrigglers in the jar.. do I just siphon them off and feed them to the baby? I thought there was something about skimming the shells off? HELP

How long do I wait and how to prepare? I'm going to surf the net for information but I prefer info from an experiernced keeper.

Thanks

Lets start at the basics, generally you need 30 hours for the majority to hatch. So at 20 hours, you've probably got less than 30% hatchout.

To remove the bbs, there are a few methods, some like using a light, and syphon (or turkey baster). with decent hatchouts, I generally allow the unhatched eggs (that sink) and bbs to flow out the airline - leaving the last inch or so (little more than hatched eggs) in the hatchery. I tend to go for pretty full hatchouts - with a low hatchout - you may want to use the syphon/baster method to avoid all the unhatched cysts.

Oh - and here's an address you'll want to visit: http://www.angelfish.net/yabbse/index.php

Andy