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SuperFudge 09-18-2002 01:15 AM

Calcium problems.
 
Are you sure your TANK alk is 18 DKH?...are you measuring near the effluent output ?

Well yes that is a problem....its too high!
Holy jeez 30bpm increase at once?
And no effluent increase (or no mention of amnt)?

I had suggested both of these perportionate to each other and to monitor it,more like 5 bpm and 5 dpm increase at a time,measure and adjust accordingly.

Whoooaaa gunshot approach! :eek:

You need only keep your TANK alk at slightly higher than normal,like say 3.6-4meq/l.....then raise JUST the effluent rate....test....if your calcium is not there yet,raise them both slowly and preportionatly.(increments as stated above) Test...if alk increased,then turn JUST effluent up more to counteract...leaving 24 hrs between adjustments and tests.
Repeat until params are met.

Weeks...not days.

[ 17 September 2002, 21:34: Message edited by: Superfudge ]

Aquattro 09-18-2002 01:26 AM

Calcium problems.
 
Gee Marc, ya think 18 dKh is too high :-)
That's double what my effluent was yesterday (whole other story). I think your phrase "not days, but weeks" should include that the number of weeks should equal up to a month. Just don't know what I'm gonna do with this Steve guy....... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

StirCrazy 09-18-2002 01:29 AM

Calcium problems.
 
ya it is.. retested it.. I did raise them in proportion i increased the flow by 50% and I also increaed the co2 by 50% .. I just cut back on the co2 a bit.. it is about 70 bpm..

hmm
how do you count drips when it is almost a stream [img]smile.gif[/img]

Thanks Marc

Steve

[ 17 September 2002, 21:30: Message edited by: StirCrazy ]

SuperFudge 09-18-2002 01:41 AM

Calcium problems.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by StirCrazy:
ya it is.. retested it.. I did raise them in proportion i increased the flow by 50% and I also increaed the co2 by 50% .. I just cut back on the co2 a bit.. it is about 70 bpm..

hmm
how do you count drips when it is almost a stream [img]smile.gif[/img]

Thanks Marc

Steve

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You get the stream when you increase things by 50 % ! :eek:

LOL,then take a small measuring cup and measure say in 5ml increments.

Your scarin me man!, id hate to see you when you get your hands on a bottle of magnesium! :eek:

StirCrazy 09-18-2002 01:52 AM

Calcium problems.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Superfudge:
QUOTE]You get the stream when you increase things by 50 % ! :eek:

LOL,then take a small measuring cup and measure say in 5ml increments.

Your scarin me man!, id hate to see you when you get your hands on a bottle of magnesium! :eek: [/QB]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">when I set it up I am getting a very fast drip at a flow rate of 1 gal/hour.. it ballanced out at 1.5 gph and when i increased the co2 I increased the flow to 2gph..

as it sits right now I am going to put the Mg on the shelf as the reactor is bringing my Ca, and my Mg levels up so I don't think I will have to use it.

Steve

SuperFudge 09-18-2002 02:09 AM

Calcium problems.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by StirCrazy:
as it sits right now I am going to put the Mg on the shelf as the reactor is bringing my Ca, and my Mg levels up so I don't think I will have to use it.

Steve

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thatll work better for ya,im sure.

I should also mention that "preportionate" might not be the proper term....i guess that might be taken as a ratio of 50:50.

It could be any ratio of effluent to bubble count increase.Like say for example from 40 bpm and 55mls min effluent to 45bpm and 58mls min effluent
I just meant to say that to give you a good work point,once the numbers you wish are very close you can tweak either one.Eventually doing it this way you can guess closely by just looking at or measuring either one of these seperatley, what the other is(or should be),and what any change of the same ratio will do for your system.

[ 17 September 2002, 22:10: Message edited by: Superfudge ]

StirCrazy 09-18-2002 02:13 AM

Calcium problems.
 
ok cool Marc, what kinda Ca level shoudl I expect to see in the effulent when it is working good?
some one said leaving the bubbles constant and increasing my effulant out willbring the Ca levels up? this still has me a little confused as I would have expected everything to drop if I increased the flow and not the co2..

Steve

[ 17 September 2002, 22:15: Message edited by: StirCrazy ]

StirCrazy 10-08-2002 06:09 AM

Ok this rears its ugly head again.. for three weeks I let stuff sit on the shelf and did more reaserch and tried the waiting game.. in that three weeks my MG cam up 20 ppm and my Ca came up 10 ppm. doing some more reading yesterday I decided to go ahead and raise my Mg and also my Ca to proper levels.

this is the reasioning behind my desision.
http://www.reefcentral.com/vbulletin...hreadid=119035

I started with my Mg yesterday, I raised it 100 ppm in 24 hours (max recomended on the bottle so it is probably a conservitave amount) and I took my Mg up to 990 ppm, my Ca increased 20 ppm ( to 245ppm ) as a result of the increase of Mg. I dosed another Mg tonight and I expect my level to be about 1100 tomorrow and I will test Ca to see if it jumps again with the increase.

once I get my Mg to 1300 (which I think will finnish this bottle) I will let it stabalize for a few days then increase the Ca to whare it should be.

I am writing all the measurments down and I will try to see if I can come up with any corralation between the Mg and Ca levels when I am done.

Steve


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