sigh.... more stn issues, fairly certain it was a combo of slight overdose of zeostart, slight change in zeo reactor output (when i changed pump and reactor 2mths ago) and an alk swing from 7 dkh to 8.75 dkh overnight (apex malfunction)

only my largest colonies are dying, i was hoping it would stop but this morning nearly a 1/4 of my large bonsai, yellow mille, efflo and teal deepwater... i dont think i have a choice but to frag out...

I fragged out the teal deepwater and cut most of the dying tissue, but i found this black inside the skeleton, anyone know if this is whats killing my nicest stuff? besides stn from recent issues..

pics after cutting most of the bottom off,

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psvuja5bwc.jpg

black stuff, was inside the part that was dying,

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...pswbewqh1t.jpg

frag tank was a mess so i picked up some of these new nifty frag racks from IM. I saw them on a MACNA review, so i snatched 2 when i saw them.

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...pszw67inmz.jpg

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psvkwkazhc.jpg

http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psndhby9w2.jpg

did you find them local? price?

Sorry to hear about the STN troubles... I sure hope that beauty Efflo pulls through!

Stn has moved down about an inch everywhere, im devestated.. im going to attempt to save some part of it but cutting it with a dremmel, pretty sure to save any of it i will have to, any suggestions?

yeah i found them at pisces, not cheap 89% ea. they had 2 smaller versions for cheaper but i didnt look into them.

When dealing with stn in the past I only had success by cutting away at the healthy portion and gluing te fresh cut portion to a rock or frag plug an leave it in a low flow area in ur tank. Oh ya and prayed that it didn't die the next day lol

looks like i have a lot of cutting to do :(

I haven't found that fragging always helps. In fact, I'm not sure that it even helps at all. I've tried fragging and not fragging, and sometimes the frags will survive when the rest of the colony perishes, and sometimes just the opposite. If you do frag, try to clip in-tank, and leave the rest of the colony in there.

ya I definetly prefer to frag in tank, Im going to dip a few different colonies and see what comes off. AEFW are still a suspect, but im still leaning towards alk spike as i havent stopped using flatworm stop in 6-8 mths. I fragged a huge mille just in time to save a few good size mini colonies, so far so good...