Like I said in my earlier post, I probably shouldn't have waded into this discussion....LOL. I don't have time for another "What is a corporation" debate.

:lol: I had to unsubscribe from that thread.

Then I have concerns about that LED. why would my tank running on LED be any different to the next, I dont need a chiller and never have running LED.

LED's give out heat when driven hard, if the lamp does not have enough sufficient cooling which in turn effects the lamps PAR output then its not designed correctly.

My second generation DIY light uses a lot more Aluminium bars for the heat sink and so it dissipates the heat extremely well with NO fans whatsoever. Its all passive heat dissipation and just warm to the touch, even at full blast (280w) after 8 hours. My tanks were much warmer in the summer with halides.

I wonder if Brad and the others who experienced heat issues with LEDs have them inside an enclosed canopy with not enough air movement?

Yes, I had mine in a canopy.

Okay so what's the consensus? Should I switch to LEDS? Maybe I should ask in a poll.

Okay, but it needs to be he best poll ever or it's not even worth voting. :lol:

Absolutely.

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I'm finding the colours I'm getting with my mitras to be just as good if not better (finally) than with my radiums. tank seems to be on an upward swing which I believe has nothing to do with the lights.

one thing that still stand out to me is how much better halides look over tanks during daylight hours. my LEDs just don't look bright enough to make the tank pop when it's light in the room. once evening rolls around my tank looks so much better in a dark livingroom.